Somewhere in the West

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Where: Galway, Ireland

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I know this scene, it is like the Delphi Fishery but I do not think it is, T. C. Kingsmill Moore, would know precisely. It is definitely associated with a fishery in the West of Ireland. We have the scotch pines, all the fisheries in Connemara seem to have them, I wonder why?

sharon.corbet won the race to identify the location for this photo, we are at Glendollagh House looking at Lissoughter Mountain or ‘Cnoc Lios Uachtair’ as it’s known in Irish, meaning ‘hill of the upper ring-fort’ it is situated between Lough Inagh and Recess. The Lake is known as Garroman or Glendollagh Lough.

Photographers: Frederick Holland Mares, James Simonton

Contributor: John Fortune Lawrence

Collection: Stereo Pairs Photograph Collection

Date: Catalogue range c.1860-1883

NLI Ref: STP_1508

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Owner: National Library of Ireland on The Commons
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    Niall McAuley

    • 13/Jul/2018 08:31:42

    The catalogue says "Sea, hills in background, small wooded promontory in middleground, high angle on small jetty, row boats in foreground", but I don't see any sign of tides, I think this is a lake.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 13/Jul/2018 08:35:40

    The path at left looks suspiciously well laid out and surfaced - we may be in the grounds of a big house or demesne.

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    TJ.Photography

    • 13/Jul/2018 08:52:16

    is this supposed to be a stereogram (or graph)? Am I allowed to download the pic and convert it into an anaglyph?

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 13/Jul/2018 09:07:31

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/tj_q8 Hi TJ, we call it a Stereo Pair, you can download it and convert it, just reference National Library of Ireland in any postings, also note our reference STP_1508, Have a look at our stream there are many more. Thanks, Mary.

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    TJ.Photography

    • 13/Jul/2018 09:27:07

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland perfect - posted and tagged u in it as well :) dia dhuit!

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 13/Jul/2018 09:36:53

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/tj_q8 For all to see here. https://www.flickr.com/photos/tj_q8/42475147605

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    TJ.Photography

    • 13/Jul/2018 09:39:46

    oh i can post images in the comments? sheesh i didnt use flickr in such a long time i totally forgot how to do things lol - hope you like it :) u know... the dock and the bay kinda remind me of Inchagoill dock as well, but the scotch trees are distinctive upon arrival onto Inchagoill so... it definitely is not Inchagoill.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 13/Jul/2018 09:46:15

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/tj_q8 I agree with you, I do not think it is Inchagoill either. To post a flickr image in comments just copy the URL between square brackets

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    derangedlemur

    • 13/Jul/2018 10:43:57

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley I think you're right. I've only just arrived but my initial impression is Killarney, or maybe Lough Mask.

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    derangedlemur

    • 13/Jul/2018 10:58:49

    Could be difficult enough. The OSI's historic attitude to lakes down the west seems to have been "Ah, sure it's only a lake down the west"

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    DannyM8

    • 13/Jul/2018 11:24:50

    https://flic.kr/p/Hb3n3t at first I though this was it, but now I think not

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    irishlad031_vintage

    • 13/Jul/2018 11:33:25

    Surely he's shooting from the top of a building or man-made structure of some kind?... Its a high angle looking down.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 13/Jul/2018 12:02:36

    Does the light on the tree trunk bottom left suggest we are looking East? Wasn't expecting that.

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    derangedlemur

    • 13/Jul/2018 12:38:55

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Unless Danny's right and it's reversed R2L

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    derangedlemur

    • 13/Jul/2018 12:40:29

    I was thinking it might be this mountain if only I could get the right angle: www.google.ie/maps/@52.0142193,-9.5119581,3a,75y,266.47h,...

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    DannyM8

    • 13/Jul/2018 12:45:56

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I thought of that, but its not. If you reverse the 1508 you get 1208 and there is a 1208 in the Catalogue.

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    derangedlemur

    • 13/Jul/2018 12:52:05

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Also, I've done a histogram equalisation on the mountain and it looks a lot different when you can see the details.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 13/Jul/2018 12:56:55

    I think it looks more like Connemara than Killarney - the far shore is very bare.

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    Sunny Harry

    • 13/Jul/2018 12:59:35

    It could be lough Feegh there is an oige hostel with a very similar pier. https://www.flickr.com/photos/frankcawley/13965009222 53°57'00.29" N 9°34'06.15" W

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    derangedlemur

    • 13/Jul/2018 13:09:22

    I think I have the mountain: www.google.ie/maps/@51.8234261,-10.1613101,3a,32y,74.43h,... Edit: Maybe I don't think this is it after all.

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    derangedlemur

    • 13/Jul/2018 13:25:22

    I suppose an alternative reason for trees so close to the shore and no tide lines is that the tide is in. It does look very calm to be the sea, though.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 13/Jul/2018 13:58:24

    Glendalough, Co. Galway

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    Niall McAuley

    • 13/Jul/2018 14:16:57

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet] aka Glendollagh? If so, the 25" lets us down, as suggested earlier by: lemur

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    Niall McAuley

    • 13/Jul/2018 14:18:34

    Compare Sharons shot with the skyline in this streetview

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    Niall McAuley

    • 13/Jul/2018 14:21:39

    We have visited the hotel at Glendollagh before, but I can't recall when.

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    derangedlemur

    • 13/Jul/2018 14:24:23

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet] That'd be here. maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V2,484092,747115,11,7 I wasn't able to get streetview to match it earlier. edit: Because I was pointing it in the wrong direction: www.google.ie/maps/@53.460919,-9.7562835,3a,31.7y,332.32h...

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    Niall McAuley

    • 13/Jul/2018 14:42:18

    OK - I think I know why I have Deja Vu, Chetham's Library posted an album of old Galway shots a while ago which included this reverse view: Galway Album 57 As well as these: Galway Album 60 Galway Album 59 Galway Album 58

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 13/Jul/2018 14:49:23

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley I see https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Commented on one of the Chetham photos, I wonder can he add anything here?

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    sharon.corbet

    • 13/Jul/2018 14:52:22

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] Seems to be equally Glendollagh, Glendalough or some variation of Garroman! [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] There seem to be a few Glendalough photos that have been mislabeled as Co. Wicklow, e.g. this jetty-view.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 13/Jul/2018 14:56:05

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet Thanks Sharon, we will have a look.

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    DannyM8

    • 13/Jul/2018 14:58:18

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet Well done.

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    dearbhaile2

    • 13/Jul/2018 15:07:25

    Gartan lake donegal possibly www.google.ie/maps/place/Gartan+Outdoor+Education+and+Tra... the little pier is semi overgrown but still in use

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    Niall McAuley

    • 13/Jul/2018 15:09:39

    Shots of the Jetty here: Galway Album 95

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    Niall McAuley

    • 13/Jul/2018 15:12:04

    The bottom left shot there is similar to todays, and is titled FROM HOTEL WINDOW, so https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] is quite correct above. But I think the Hotel was destroyed in the civil war.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 13/Jul/2018 15:18:25

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Hi, I am inclined to go with the Glendollagh option, Thanks for your comment and please do feel free to comment at anytime.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 13/Jul/2018 15:19:13

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley I think the bottom left photo confirms the location as Glendollagh.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 14/Jul/2018 06:39:16

    Thanks for all the research which now makes a vary interesting read. Map etc all updated.

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    domenico milella

    • 14/Jul/2018 08:03:53

    Congratulation for your beautiful Album. Nice Week End - Ciao.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 14/Jul/2018 10:34:57

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Hello.

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    Lookatit (Bob)

    • 14/Jul/2018 10:52:53

    Fine 3D! In this shot is every object rather far away and then is the 3D effect weak! But it is to see, and can not made better.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 15/Jul/2018 12:14:16

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/ Boo!

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 15/Jul/2018 16:55:00

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia :)

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    domenico milella

    • 16/Jul/2018 07:38:16

    Congratulation for your beautiful Album.

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    Dr. Ilia

    • 16/Jul/2018 08:00:07

    brilliant!