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Where: Carlow, Ireland

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When: 25 January 1964

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Though perhaps not as picturesque as yesterday's image of the waterworks in Wicklow, the engineering efforts involved in this viaduct and railway cutting are impressive in their own right. Labeled in the catalogue as "Kilcoltrim cutting to North, Borris, Co. Carlow", the greenery in this shot suggests that services on this line had been curtailed by the time of the photo.

Speaking of which, owing to a localised and temporary "Mary shortage", there will be limited service on our Flickr stream also. With no new postings. Just for a couple of days. Normal services will resume week starting 28 May :) Which is almost certainly more than can be said for services on this branch of the GS&WR line(?).....


Photographer: James P. O'Dea

Collection: James P. O'Dea

Date: 25 January 1964

NLI Ref.: ODEA 38/10

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    Wendy:

    • 23/May/2018 07:33:27

    interesting to see!

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    abandoned railways

    • 23/May/2018 07:42:33

    www.google.ie/maps/place/Kilcoltrim,+Clashganny,+Co.+Carl...

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    abandoned railways

    • 23/May/2018 07:44:53

    This line branched off from Bagenalstown, referenced a few days ago. It was the Palace East branch going to Macmine Junction that closed to passenger trains in 1931 and completely in 1963

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    derangedlemur

    • 23/May/2018 08:06:55

    Looks like it's Haggerty's bridge rather than Gitten's Bridge. maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V2,673733,649576,11,9 www.google.ie/maps/@52.5937429,-6.9124027,3a,75y,58.3h,61...

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 23/May/2018 08:21:24

    The 25 January 1964 was a Saturday.

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    domenico milella

    • 23/May/2018 08:45:54

    Congratulation for your beautiful Album.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 23/May/2018 09:31:42

    Mr James P. O'Dea's own words -

    What a very fine railway it was, too, with no sharp curves, no gradient steeper than 1 : 100, and all its bridges made wide enough for double track! Indeed, had its promoters been satisfied with lower standards of construction, and had they made alterations to the route here and there, the great viaduct at Borris (which cost £20,000) and the immense rock cutting at Kilcoltrim might have been avoided, and they might quite possibly have won the race to Wexford. ... ... The little railway that had led such a tranquil life for so many years died quietly and peacefully after a century of use. The last beet special ran in January and after that only two trains ran. These were: the R.B.A.I. Enthusiasts' special of Saturday 23 March 1963, through to Macmine Junction and back to Dublin by the coastal route, drawn by No. 151; and two days later a special for Borris Fair, out and back from Bagenalstown, drawn by engine A4, which was actually the last train to use the metals of the old B&W Railway.
    From - glasnost.itcarlow.ie/~feeleyjm/archaeology/bag-wex%20rail...

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 23/May/2018 10:02:02

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] I think the bridge is Gitten's Bridge, or as Mr O'Dea referred to it, the "high bridge". catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000306687 (reverse view with slight curve) catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000306689 (view north from Gitten's) catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000306688 (view south from Gitten's) catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000306690 (view north from Haggerty's, much lower cutting there) catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000306685 (view south from the viaduct showing the relative heights of the two bridges)

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    derangedlemur

    • 23/May/2018 10:08:18

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] If you look at Gitten's bridge, it doesn't seem to have the capstones along the parapet: www.google.ie/maps/@52.5916926,-6.9099836,3a,46.6y,90.83h... It also looks much more level, whereas the one in the picture has a peak in the middle.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 23/May/2018 10:39:17

    Haggerty's Bridge is in the NIAH, and I don't think it's this one. Unfortunately, Gittens Bridge was not added.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 23/May/2018 10:49:08

    Both bridges are described in this document, but the picture of Gittens Bridge is of the road on top. Haggerty's is described as: A road bridge over the railway. This single arch, humpback, elegant bridge is built of granite ashlar buttresses with rusticated voussoirs and cut stone stringcourses and a solid parapet with coping. The bridge was built in 1862. Gittens, meanwhile: A road bridge over the railway to the South of Haggerty’s Bridge. This elegant bridge is built of granite ashlar with rusticated voussoirs and a solid parapet with coping. The bridge was built in 1862.

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    derangedlemur

    • 23/May/2018 11:54:08

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet I think you're right. From the additional images, it does seem more like Gittens' Bridge. The flatter appearance in Streetview is probably an artefact of their mouldy optics.

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    Eiretrains

    • 23/May/2018 18:02:00

    It is said the cutting was one of the deepest, if not the deepest, on the Irish railway network, but trees nowadays obscures its depth. It would be interesting if they extended the greenway from the viaduct up through to the cutting which would reveal the massive engineering involved.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 23/May/2018 21:36:54

    *Wild Goose Chase* - one of my favourite time-wasters is to try following old railways (or even Roman roads in England) using GoogleMaps satellite. Open www.google.ie/maps/@52.5921058,-6.9091171,471m/data=!3m1!1e3 , press "3D", and "Ctrl + mouse drag for full 3D" and off we go, stopping sometimes where there is a convenient 'streetview' for a gander ... This railway from Bagenalstown to Macmine Junction is a challenge; it sometimes disappears, but there is usually an avenue of trees a short way on, where it should be. If you get really lost, there is always the 25" map for reference. Fun!

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    abandoned railways

    • 24/May/2018 08:16:08

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Thats how I traced the West Cork line for my site. Really is a great resource.

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    Salty Windows

    • 24/May/2018 14:07:17

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/abandonedrailsireland I hear of passengers having to alight from the trains on the steeper parts of the track. Maybe Fred you could confirm or not?

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    Salty Windows

    • 24/May/2018 14:18:26

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/flyingsnail I have passed within a stone's throw of this cutting thousands of times and never new it existed. Would be a great grrenway track alright. Although I believe the viaduct in Borris has recently been closed off.

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    abandoned railways

    • 24/May/2018 16:34:54

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gerrydunne Passengers alighted during the "emergency" from trains, because the lack of fuel, that affected the whole network. Up until the seventies passengers had to alight from some full buses going up the northside of Cork City, and would walk beside the bus until it had passed the Assumption church and the road levelled out.

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    werner_hedgehog

    • 24/May/2018 19:08:19

    Lordy me, I'm local and you don't realise how steep and deep that cutting is, so overgrown it is, not even when you look over the parapet. A man was tragically killed at this bridge a few years back when the car went over the edge.

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    domenico milella

    • 26/May/2018 08:04:05

    Congratulation for your beautiful Album. Nice Week End.

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    philfluther

    • 22/Dec/2018 09:49:49

    Curve. Curve. Curve. Shapely.