Cabinet commissioned by Mr. M.J. Staines M.P., 6 Harcourt St., Dublin

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When: 01 January 1918

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A "cabinet" photograph of M. J. Staines M.P. from the Poole Collection to bring us back after the long Easter break. I am not sure what part he played in the Easter Rising but he was a significant figure thereafter and it is good to have him on an equally significant anniversary! I hope that you are all recovered from the overdose of chocolate that was about and are now fit and raring to go?

While this particular Mary didn't know anything of Michael Staines (1885-1955) before today, it seems that he was one of life's natural administrators. The quartermaster of the GPO garrison during the Rising, he was commandant to the prisoners in the internment camps that followed. Later involved in administering the New Ireland Assurance Collecting Society, and seemingly involved with the Irish Clerical Workers Union, he became the first Garda Commissioner in 1922. While perhaps not "front of house" in the early days of the state, it seems he held critical (if perhaps somewhat clerical) roles in its formation and function....


Photographer: A. H. Poole

Collection: Poole Photographic Studio, Waterford

Date: c.1918

NLI Ref: POOLED 5740

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    CASSIDY PHOTOGRAPHY

    • 03/Apr/2018 07:13:24

    Michal Joseph Staines, First Police Commissioner Actually quite a nice photo, for its age/date. Photographically-speaking, looks like the face was re-touched, at some point, during processing or printing or maybe sometime later. Also, too much empty white space above his head, so wonder why the photographer didn't show more below the sternum, unless he wasn't wearing any trousers. Lastly, with his chin and nose up, it makes him appear a bit supercilious and like Pinnochio, which most politicians are, anyway. It would have looked better to have had him pose looking toward the camera, chin slightly down or level and lowering the left shoulder and raising the right . . . as the way the photo looks he appears deformed. Sadly, there was no Flickr, back then and nobody to provide a bit of coaching for taking portraits. catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000585551 www.bureauofmilitaryhistory.ie/reels/bmh/BMH.WS0944.pdf#p... www.generalmichaelcollins.com/life-times/rebellion/free-s... www.generalmichaelcollins.com/life-times/rebellion/an-gar... www.policehistory.com/staines.html www.generalmichaelcollins.com/life-times/albums/photo-alb...

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    Niall McAuley

    • 03/Apr/2018 09:11:54

    Wikipedia says he was born in 1885 in Mayo, father Edward, mother Margaret, so this has to be him in the 1911 census, living in Dublin, working as an ironmonger's assistant.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 03/Apr/2018 09:21:00

    What happened? ... his own witness statement (1954) - www.bureauofmilitaryhistory.ie/reels/bmh/BMH.WS0944.pdf#p...

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    O Mac

    • 03/Apr/2018 10:10:22

    We were at No 6 Harcourt St before. It's now the headquarters of Conradh na Gaeilge www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/6014399289

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 03/Apr/2018 15:53:15

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/cassidyphotography https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I wonder what the pin he is wearing is? I think I can make out UNION? I will also include https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] resident expert on pins and badges.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 03/Apr/2018 16:00:38

    I am guessing the badge says ICWU in the middle, for Irish C**** Workers Union? Catholic maybe? But I don't see any obvious hits.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 03/Apr/2018 16:12:12

    Was there an Irish Craft Workers union?

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    John Spooner

    • 03/Apr/2018 17:09:25

    On January 8th 1920 the Dublin evening Telegraph reported police raids on the offices of the New Ireland Assurance Company, Bachelors Walk, the Dail Eireann offices, 76 Harcourt Street and the Sinn Fein Bank, b6 Harcourt Street/b. The paper quotes a statement from Mr Michael Staines, Chairman of the Society.

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    John Spooner

    • 03/Apr/2018 17:12:21

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ Given his position in assurance and possibly banking, could it be Irish Clerical Workers Union? I've found a couple of references to this organisation in 1919 newspapers.

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    sam2cents

    • 03/Apr/2018 19:08:24

    I could be wrong, but I seem to remember the name Staines in relation to the Border Commission in one of my old schoolbooks. I couldn't swear to it though. As usual this is an exceptionally interesting subject.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 03/Apr/2018 21:34:34

    come here to me ref to the Irish clerical workers union

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 03/Apr/2018 22:36:30

    Thanks all - I have updated the tags, text, date and description! (Certainly there's no evidence of wits being dulled by overindulgence this past weekend :) )

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    Niall McAuley

    • 04/Apr/2018 06:04:05

    The union was founded on the 21st October 1917, and became the Irish Clerical & Allied Workers Union in 1920, so that badge only had a 3 year life. I wonder if any survive...

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    Niall McAuley

    • 04/Apr/2018 06:13:10

    From the aforementioned Stuart's flickr stream, a similar badge for the Railway Clerk's Association: (RCA) The Railway Clerks Association of Great Britain & Ireland - membership badge (1940’s or earlier)

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    Niall McAuley

    • 04/Apr/2018 06:18:44

    There is a Keogh shot in the archive called "Members of the Staines Family" which may show our friend here sporting a beard, with his younger brother John P?

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    Niall McAuley

    • 04/Apr/2018 06:28:28

    Staines is clean shaven in this 1919 group shot with Dev, Collins, Griffith etc. at the Mansion House. (He's behind Dev). (the notes say 1921, but I see the same image with a 1919 date in the archive).

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 04/Apr/2018 07:29:03

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley I buy into the Irish Clerical Workers Union. I read his Bureau of Military History witness statement, a fascinating character, I am amazed that I had never heard of him before.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 04/Apr/2018 08:02:52

    Here is a page for his brother Liam Staines, who died in 1918. It also mentions their youngest brother Vinny.

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    RETRO STU

    • 04/Apr/2018 19:14:23

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Wow Niall, great you spotted that. My computer don't have that level of resolution. Nice to know what that badge is and was very curious about that. Thank you. Stuart.