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When: 02 July 1923

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A wedding group from the Poole studios with a wonderful selection of hats and at least 5 members of the clergy in attendance. With such a fine group attending I do hope that Mr. and Mrs. Cassin of Bennettsbridge had a wonderful married life?

Almost consecutively, sharon.corbet and Bernard Healy identified this as the wedding of Alice O'Keefe and William Cassin on 2 July 1923. Bernard also suggests that one of the clergymen pictured, Fr Andrew O'Keefe, chief celebrant at the wedding, was the bride's brother. Unfortunately Alice passed away in 1939 (aged 47). William -every bit the tall farmer in this image- remained widowed until his own death in 1963 (aged 87)....


Photographer: A. H. Poole

Collection: Poole Photographic Studio, Waterford

Date: c.2 July 1923

NLI Ref: POOLEWP 3111a

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 16/Feb/2018 08:47:10

    Eek! Where has Maud Gonne gone ?

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 16/Feb/2018 08:57:56

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia OMG - We have had a very technical problem today - Poor Maud is GONE, deleted in error due to a glitch in our systems. As you all know deleted on Flicker means deleted. Our plan is to post her again next week and see if we can recreate the excellent detective work from yesterday. If you have a copy of the comments in your history or anywhere on your computer, please do send them on to us. Mary

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    John Spooner

    • 16/Feb/2018 09:00:57

    M Cassin is mentioned in the Waterford Standard Saturday 24 June 1933 as presiding over a meeting of the Corporation Housing Committee in his capacity as Mayor. He was a councillor as early as 1907 (elected to the Street Committee and the Public Health Committee, and was the councils's representative on the Harbour Board ).

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 16/Feb/2018 09:06:46

    Some Good News - we did manage to find the following comments from yesterday. sam2centsPRO said: Carol Maddock J. V. Robinson must have been a pretty successful photographer in the first place to afford such a device, and very proficient at the scientific arts involved to have designed such a beast. Someone worth knowing way more about. As for Maud Gonne, I had no idea she was so tall, but I see in group photos she towers over other women. Her daughter, the one Yeats was interested in, was very ... BeachcomberAustralia added tags: feather, boa philfluther said: The Hannah Arendt of WW1, "an inconceivable madness". John Spooner said: Sam Here is J V Robinson's obituary in the Irish Times on Monday 21 October 1901 . 10 hours ago sam2centsPRO said: John Spooner Thanks John! I like the line 'in this age of universal electric lighting'. 7 hours ago You said: Thanks Sharon Corbet, Carol Maddock, John Spooner, beachcomber australia, Sam, all. I've mapped this one to the suggested Paris studio address. And, to avoid suggestions of time travel, updated the date to c.1896 :) I've added a short note on the inscription (and its dedicator and dedicatee) to the text. Much appreciated as usual! 7 hours ago oaktree_brian_1976 said: Miss Gonne belongs to an English and Protestant family; it was because she owned land in Ireland that she had the opportunity to witness the painful spectacle of Irish misery and resolved to relieve it. "I gave my life to Ireland, she tells us, until the home ride is stolen. But I did not give up the religion of my fathers. Miss Maud, tall and slender, with a frail appearance, conceals a virile ... 7 hours ago oaktree_brian_1976 said: more photos, 1892 gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8596905t/f23.i tem 6 hours ago oaktree_brian_1976 said: Maud Gonne gave lectures. In a monotonous and tireless voice, taking from her aquamarine eyes the sky to witness, she narrated the misery of the peasants of her country, the atrocities of landlords, and dedicated to the wrath of Hell the Protestants of Ulster she called "these abominable Orangist hypocrites". Le Cri de Paris / dir. P. Dollfus 1918-05-26

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    Niall McAuley

    • 16/Feb/2018 09:52:17

    We are on the steps of the Adelphi Imperial Hotel in Waterford again: September 17, 1931 Unsung heroes!  Lifeboat men on land for once!

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    Niall McAuley

    • 16/Feb/2018 09:54:48

    25" map at GeoHive

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    Niall McAuley

    • 16/Feb/2018 09:56:21

    Building has been replaced by the Tower Hotel, Streetview.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 16/Feb/2018 10:03:27

    I found a marriage record for a William Cassin and Alice O'Keefe on 2nd July 1923 in Waterford. William Cassin's residence is given as "Bishopslough" which is near Bennettsbridge, Co. Kilkenny. Could the M. Cassin be a misreading for a W. Cassin?

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    Bernard Healy

    • 16/Feb/2018 10:15:05

    I think I've identified the wedding: civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marri... Between William Cassin of Bishop's Lough (near Bennetsbridge) farmer, son of Richard Cassin (farmer) and Alice O'Keeffe of Crawn?, Kilmacow, daughter of late James O'Keeffe (farmer) Witnesses: William Rice, Kathleen Murphy, Josie Kinsella Priest: Andrew O'Keeffe at St John's Catholic Church, Waterford on 2 July 1923

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    tippjim

    • 16/Feb/2018 10:18:09

    Fancy Hats - Roman Collars and the Lady in the window.

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    Bernard Healy

    • 16/Feb/2018 10:29:18

    From this record here it seems as though Alice died relatively young - aged 47 in 1939 - died at Crawn of Bright's Disease civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/death...

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    sharon.corbet

    • 16/Feb/2018 10:36:21

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy] Whereas here are William Cassin's birth and death records. He lived to 87, and would have been almost 47 at the time of his wedding.

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    Bernard Healy

    • 16/Feb/2018 10:41:20

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet] I was just about to post those. :) He looks pretty fresh for 47 in the picture, but I suppose we have the right chap. Graveyard records here: www.from-ireland.net/tullaherin-graveyard-records-kilkenny/

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    Niall McAuley

    • 16/Feb/2018 10:43:51

    This may be Alice in 1911 - aged 20 in 1911 lines up with age 47 in 1939.

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    Bernard Healy

    • 16/Feb/2018 10:52:30

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kilkenny/Ullid/... Same household in 1901 - father's name was James. That matches.

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    Bernard Healy

    • 16/Feb/2018 10:55:13

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet Sharon! I feel like I owe you an apology. For some reason your comment with the marriage record wasn't visible to me when I posted.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 16/Feb/2018 11:07:06

    The two with identical box cameras in their laps, bottom left, look to be related to each other, brother and sister?

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    Bernard Healy

    • 16/Feb/2018 11:07:15

    BTW, I think it fairly probable that the priest who did the wedding (Fr Andrew O Keeffe) is her brother. He was 31 per 1911 census & this seems to be his birth record: civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth... Son of James O'Keeffe & Mary Walsh of Crawn, born 1870. He's surely the priest sitting on the bride's side in the front row.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 16/Feb/2018 11:09:37

    The priest in the doorway at the back has what looks like the shoulder strap of another camera. That or he's got binoculars and is off to the races later...

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    oaktree_brian_1976

    • 16/Feb/2018 11:17:03

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Time travel and we exposed her. Deleted before Section 31 comes to fix things. (Star Trek)

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    Bernard Healy

    • 16/Feb/2018 11:23:06

    I can't help tracking the clergy connections - have a look at this list of priests from Tullaherin Parish: homepage.eircom.net/~duchas/steeples/SteepleVol1/clergy.htm Rev. Andrew Cassin - Bishopslough. Andrew Cassin was ordained in St. Kieran's in 1954 for the Diocese of Washington DC. U.S.A. and is presently serving in Leonardstown in that Diocese. Very likely a relation - and I'd guess probably a son of our wedding couple. Being ordained in 1954, he must have been born about 1929 or thereabouts - he's still active in Virginia. stfrancisparish.org/staff.html

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    Bernard Healy

    • 16/Feb/2018 11:35:49

    I've e-mailed Msgr Cassin & asked for his help in confirming the details.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 16/Feb/2018 11:44:41

    Here are William and his family in 1901 and 1911.

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    John A. Coffey

    • 16/Feb/2018 12:16:45

    Two smokers, woman in the window and man centre back.

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    aidanhodson

    • 16/Feb/2018 16:10:48

    A very mature-looking wedding party. Not a child in sight! On first sight I thought it was a very large committee until I saw the couple in the middle!

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    ofarrl

    • 16/Feb/2018 18:14:39

    I would have to disagree on the location. The railings and the curve to the sides match the ones on the front of the Imperial Hotel. The Adelphi Hotel had different railings and straight sided steps. Adelphi Hotel circa 1900 Adelphi Hotel & Waterford Steamship Co..

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    Bernard Healy

    • 16/Feb/2018 20:43:17

    🚨🚨🚨 IDENTIFICATION KLAXON!

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    Bernard Healy

    • 16/Feb/2018 20:46:29

    I’ve had an email from the parish secretary where Msgr Andrew Cassin (ordained 1954) works & she tells me that he was delighted to see the picture as this is his parents’ wedding photo and he is able to confirm the results of our sleuthing. I’ve asked her if he’s willing to share more information about the other people pictured & I will pass on his reply.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 17/Feb/2018 05:46:24

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/] it is indeed the Imperial as the notes on those other shots confirm, I got mixed up. There is a full frontal Poole in the archive of the hotel, but it seems to have been heavily "photoshopped" for some reason.

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    DannyM8

    • 17/Feb/2018 06:29:02

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy Well done Bernard.

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    domenico milella

    • 17/Feb/2018 09:07:40

    Congratulation for your beautiful Album- Nice Week End.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 18/Feb/2018 23:00:46

    Thanks especially to [https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy] and [https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet] for the input on the subject and date. I've updated the text to reflect. I have also updated the map location to account for the solid suggestions from [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] and [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]]. Thanks again! [PS - Have reposted the Maud Gonne (Gone) image. Apologies again for any lost/curtailed comments]

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    Bernard Healy

    • 19/Feb/2018 11:09:23

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland I think you've misunderstood the situation of Fr Cassin. Msgr Andrew Cassin is the SON of the couple pictured and is still alive in America. He is not pictured in the photo. He wasn't born until about 7 years afterwards. He has confirmed the identification of the photo & was delighted to see a picture of his parents' wedding.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 19/Feb/2018 22:43:20

    Apologies https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy and thanks. My mistake of course. Have adjusted accordingly!

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    Bernard Healy

    • 21/Feb/2018 19:46:54

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ I’ve had further info from Msgr Cassin. Whilst he recognises several of the guests as being various relatives, he’s only able to give a firm identification for two of them. Seated next to the bride is her sister, his ‘Aunt Kate’ and the priest seated on the bride’s side at the front is indeed his uncle Fr Andrew O’Keeffe.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 22/Feb/2018 09:55:54

    Very good https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy - And much appreciated. Please pass on our thanks to Msgr Cassin!

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    Terry Cassin

    • 07/Aug/2018 14:04:17

    This is my grandparents wedding photo. They had 3 boys. One died as a child, the second child is Msgr Andy Cassin and their third was my father, Richard, whose wife and family still reside in Bennettsbridge.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 07/Aug/2018 19:14:15

    Thanks https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] - We are always delighted to hear from those with a connection to our photos! If you feel comfortable providing any other information on the other members of the wedding party, please do let us know. Thanks again!

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    Niall McAuley

    • 25/Aug/2018 17:53:22

    This is a test of the Geohive interface to the OSI 25" map

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 26/Aug/2018 10:39:56

    Thanks https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley - Our hero! :)