Right leaning chimneys in Rathdowney!
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The week is off to a rocky start with visit to a brewery first thing on Monday morning. This fine Royal plate from the Lawrence Collection, taken on a still day, shows a fine enterprise seemingly in full swing. Those chimney vents are interesting. and I suspect that they were under the influence of the wind to take away the vapours? I never heard of a brewery in Rathdowney and it will be interesting to read what can be dug up!
The "leaning chimney cowls" are confirmed to be of a type that turned with the wind - so obviously weren't always angled to the right :) Our contributors also tell us that Perry's Brewery dates back to 1800 - and looks very similar in this 1832 illustration. The suggestion, though not absolute, is that this image may date from around 1900 - based on the dates attributed to other Lawrence/French images of the area....
Photographer: Robert French
Collection: Lawrence Photograph Collection
Date: Catalogue range c.1865-1914. Perhaps after c.1900
NLI Ref: L_ROY_10403
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The "leaning chimney cowls" are confirmed to be of a type that turned with the wind - so obviously weren't always angled to the right :) Our contributors also tell us that Perry's Brewery dates back to 1800 - and looks very similar in this 1832 illustration. The suggestion, though not absolute, is that this image may date from around 1900 - based on the dates attributed to other Lawrence/French images of the area....
Photographer: Robert French
Collection: Lawrence Photograph Collection
Date: Catalogue range c.1865-1914. Perhaps after c.1900
NLI Ref: L_ROY_10403
You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at catalogue.nli.ie
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domenico milella
Congratulation for your beautiful Album.
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"An oast, oast house or hop kiln is a building designed for kilning (drying) hops as part of the brewing process. They can be found in most hop-growing (and former hop-growing) areas and are often good examples of vernacular architecture. ... They consist of a rectangular one or two storey building (the "stowage") and one or more kilns in which the hops were spread out to be dried by hot air rising from a wood or charcoal-fired below. The drying floors were thin and perforated to permit the heat to pass through and escape through a cowl in the roof which turned with the wind. The freshly picked hops from the fields were raked in to dry and then raked out to cool before being bagged up and sent to the brewery. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oast_house
Rory_Sherlock
Streetview: www.google.ie/maps/@52.8555172,-7.5844973,3a,60y,90t/data... 25" Map: maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V2,627987,678420,12,9
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Carol Maddock
(Leinster Express, Saturday, 3 November 1906)i-lenticularis (NO GRAPHICS)
A very sad accident.
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History of Perry's Brewery (1800-1966) - www.askaboutireland.ie/reading-room/history-heritage/heri...
Carol Maddock
This snippet is from 1910. Are we looking at "old" or "new" brewery or both?
(Nationalist and Leinster Times, Saturday, 24 September 1910)Carol Maddock
And couldn't resist this one! Can you imagine the To-Do? Wonder how Mr M'Dougall was tracked down to Rathdowney, and was the JP Mr Perry his employer Perry or another member of the brewing family...
(Leinster Leader, Saturday, 6 June 1903)Niall McAuley
Here is Alfred William Perry in 1901: JP and Director of Brewery Company Lt
Niall McAuley
By 1911, he is married, and just lists JP as occupation.
Dún Laoghaire Micheál
and the following year . . . Marriages PERRY - WALLACE - March 19. At Rathdowney Church, Queens County by the Rev. John Pim assisted by the Rev. W.B. Fry, Rector of the parish, Alfred William Perry, Erkindale, Rathdowney to Geraldine, Widow of the late John Wallace, Knockfin, Rathdowney (Newry Reporter 25 March 1902)
mym
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] nicer sky in 2009 though: www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.8555158,-7.5845027,3a,75y,8.27h...
mym
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland that doesn't mean no more pics here does it?
John Spooner
Leinster Leader 1930s
Niall McAuley
L_ROY_10399 is nearby in catalog number and geography, and there I see a c.1900 pub and an ad for Pratt's Motor Spirit, I'm guessing it is after 1900...
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Interesting 1870 glowing description of the brewery, including about the then-being-built Eastholme house, planned use of "road steamers" (traction engines?), a rant about the quality of Irish beers, etc. Originally from the Waterford News - trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/224541950?searchTerm=p...
Niall McAuley
Everything from 10396 to 10402 is in Rathdowney. L_ROY_10398 is the Square in Rathdowney again, and I see an ad for Raglan Cycle (Company founded in 1896). Also an add for Melotte, the World's best Cream Seperator, very similar to this 1908 ad
sam2cents
Those chimneys give the scene a steampunk look. Very interesting and unusual.
historical bells
Very little left of it today.
guliolopez
L_ROY_10398 is close by (both geographically and numerically), and was previously dated to around 1900. www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/8166240548/
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Rory_Sherlock
The 1901 census lists one John E. Tomlinson, Brewery Director, living in The Square, Rathdowney with his family. They were obviously living in some comfort - their house was owned by Robert Perry, had 24 rooms, a total of 22 windows in its main facade and no less than 14 out-offices etc. - Perhaps they were living in Eastholme House which was is visible in the photo behind some of the brewery buildings? www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001164290/ www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001164269/
mym
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ me too, thanks for clarifying!
Salty Windows
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Where did all the water go? Have a look at the street view version August 2009. It's obviously not tidal. A wet month too!
mickyman13
It is the vent on a oast house which was made to be able to turn and stop the wind blowing in. A oast house or hop kiln is a building designed for kilning (drying) hops as part of the brewing process. They can be found in most hop-growing (and former hop-growing) areas and are often good examples of vernacular architecture. Many redundant oasts have been converted into houses. The names oast and oast house are used interchangeably in Kent and East Sussex. In Surrey, Hampshire, Hereford and Worcester they are always called hop kilns. Loads of info at. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oast_house
Rory_Sherlock
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/gerrydunne] The water was flowing from south to north (i.e. away from the camera in this image) - it went from this mill pond under the brewery. It's easier to see it on the 6" map as the water has been hand-coloured blue: maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V2,628027,678292,11,7
Niall McAuley
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Interesting - many mill races were built by having a weir on a river and taking water from above it into the mill race, but this one takes a whole small stream, unnamed even on these maps, and builds ponds and a race on it before it empties into the Erkina River. A bigger risk that the race might run low or out of water this way, i would think.
Salty Windows
Given that the mill no longer exists I was intrigued as to what happened the water in 2009. July 2009: www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.8555147,-7.5843961,3a,75y,345.4... August 2009: www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.8555338,-7.5843433,3a,75y,314.3...
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[https://www.flickr.com/photos/gerrydunne] It looks like someone opened the sluice gate in the far left corner to lower the water level - for desilting perhaps? www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.8559211,-7.5844298,3a,15y,313.0... SAVE THE DUCKS !
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Flickr is sometimes amazing - a bit weedy and seedy in 2014 via https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ !! https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/14600469591/
Salty Windows
https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Very impressive spot Beachcomber! Desilting? Weed control? Flood control? Vandalism? Disease control (discouraging swimmers)?
zythophile
"It is the vent on a oast house " - no it's the cowl on the kiln at the end of a maltings. The six-storey main maltings building, where the wetted barley was laid out to start sprouting, is to the left. When the barley had sprouted sufficiently, it was dried in the kiln. Two more cowls on malt kilns can be seen in the background.