Street, Midleton, Co. Cork

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To end the week, on Friday this time, I thought a visit to Ireland's secessionist County of Cork would be appropriate! This lovely Eason shot of a street in Midleton is a far cry from the statues, banks and hackneys of yesterday's College Green shot. It may however have some bonuses nonetheless!

The main 'bonus', prompted by initial investigations by Niall McAuley and ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq and others, is that the car pictured is probably the Ford motor car of John Moore. John Moore, who lived on this street (Broderick Street) in Midleton, was one of only three registered car owners in the town proper. At least in the 1920s and 1930s. It seems more than plausible therefore that it is his car that is pictured. If so, it is likely that this was captured after 1916....


Photographer: Unknown

Collection: Eason Photographic Collection

Date: Catalogue range c.1900-1939. Possibly after 1916.

NLI Ref: EAS_0949

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    Niall McAuley

    • 13/Oct/2017 08:06:05

    Broderick Street in streetview.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 13/Oct/2017 08:10:22

    The Georgian terrace is from 1780.

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    mcginley2012

    • 13/Oct/2017 08:17:18

    IK-1718 is the numberplate.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 13/Oct/2017 08:20:28

    IK 1718 is from Dublin County, IK 1 to IK 9999 (Dec 1903 – Mar 1927). In 1912, they were up to IK IK770. Car would be perhaps a 1914 reg. Clearly a Ford.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 13/Oct/2017 08:24:27

    At right is John Moore's premises: appears in the 1911 census, aged 80.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 13/Oct/2017 08:27:55

    The industrial buildings in the distance are the old Midleton Distillery.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 13/Oct/2017 08:33:49

    I think John Moore's son Patrick was a Dealer in Horses, rather than Dealer in House, as transcribed in the census online.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 13/Oct/2017 08:42:23

    Moore, J. Broderick Street is in the 1913 Guys, and the 1921 Guys, when he would have been 90!

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    Niall McAuley

    • 13/Oct/2017 08:49:16

    But in 1925, Moore PD (the son) is listed on Broderick Street.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 13/Oct/2017 08:53:45

    The 1914-15 Motor Directory only goes up to IK 1583, so this is at least a 1915 reg.

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 13/Oct/2017 09:12:33

    We've been to Midleton with Mr Eason before; I bet it was the same sunny day ! https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/27224504002/

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 13/Oct/2017 09:15:28

    The story of Sir St John Brodrick (or Broderick) after whom the street is presumably named, from this excellent blog - midletonwith1d.wordpress.com/category/sir-st-john-brodrick/

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    DannyM8

    • 13/Oct/2017 09:49:26

    Dogs.....

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    CASSIDY PHOTOGRAPHY

    • 13/Oct/2017 10:20:24

    "Irelands secessionist county of Cork" should read, Ireland's secessionist county of Cork and, this "hackneys of yesterdays College Green" should read, hackneys of yesterday's College Green

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    pellethepoet

    • 13/Oct/2017 13:13:09

    Sorry, [https://www.flickr.com/photos/cassidyphotography], I confess I stole the possessive apostrophes and gave them to the dogs to chew on. [https://www.flickr.com/photos/79549245@N06] may be able to get them back, if [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] distracts them with a bawdy limerick.

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    sam2cents

    • 13/Oct/2017 17:07:15

    They had some touch roads in those days, and the cars were able for them all the same.

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 13/Oct/2017 21:30:36

    “I was working on the proof of one of my poems all the morning, and took out a comma. In the afternoon I put it back again.” Oscar Wilde

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 13/Oct/2017 21:46:47

    Same car, different street(?) - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000556776 . Perhaps it belongs to the photographer, whose name has been scratched out on this series.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 14/Oct/2017 00:02:24

    Thanks all. Interestingly, there are only three car owners listed in the 1925 Guys directory covering Midleton. Including Mr. Moore of Broderick Street. The full listing, page 382 of the 1925 directory, is:

    Car Owners. Moore John, Brodrick street Murphy John, Main street O'Neill Agnes, Main street - Guy's City & County Cork Almanac for 1925 (p.382)
    The 1921 Directory lists a similar group. Also on page 382:
    Car Owners. Cotter Mrs M A, Main street Moore John, Brodrick street Murphy Timothy, Main street - Guy's City & County Cork Almanac for 1921 (p.382)
    Intruigingly, the 1916 Directory (page 158-163) seems to list a half-dozen or more motor car owners in the Midleton area. But a bunch of these would seem to be in the "big houses" in the surrounds. Rather than Midleton proper. No mention of Moore though. Do we think it's likely or possible that this is Mr. Moore? It seems at least plausible to my mind(?) Which would suggest that, if this is Moore in his Ford motor car, that we're after 1916. What do others think?

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 14/Oct/2017 00:28:43

    PS: Moore is still listed as one of two car owners in the 1930 Directory. Page 389. Alongside Agnes O'Neill.

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    DannyM8

    • 14/Oct/2017 07:13:31

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland I will vote for Mr Moore.

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    guliolopez

    • 15/Oct/2017 16:22:46

    Seems plausible to me too https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland and https://www.flickr.com/photos/79549245@N06. Unless the car has a connection to the photographer, it seems more than likely that it has a connection to the town or street. And as, apparently, one of just three car owners lived on the street, it seems very likely the Eason photographer captured him. And his Ford(?) car.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 16/Oct/2017 07:59:22

    Thanks all! I've updated the description to include this possibility :) (Everyone stay safe today!)

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    Lebowski Ire

    • 26/Feb/2021 02:41:04

    The car is a 1913 Ford Model T Tourer, and John Moore didn't own it. So it seems more likely to belong to someone within the camera crew. The Moores did run a hackney cart and car service in the area for many years as well as other ventures.