Mote, family 1914. Group of women and children standing in line, two women four girls and a boy

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Where: Roscommon, Ireland

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When: 01 January 1914

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While I know I'd half-promised an additional O'Dea shot this morning, I came across this delightful (family?) shot from the Clonbrock collection last night. And couldn't help myself. The kids' clothes are so clean and white, they seem to be glowing :)

Today's contributions help us map this image to Mote Park Estate in Roscommon. It was the home of the Crofton family, and seemingly birthplace of Augusta Caroline Crofton Dillon (Lady Clonbrock), who originated many of the images in the Clonbrock collection. It seems likely that the kids pictured are her grandchildren. The suggestion is that the smaller kids in white are twins George and Mary Mahon, and perhaps Ursula Mahon. Pictured perhaps on a visit with their older Crofton cousins. If so, it is likely that a catalogue correction is required - as the young George is perhaps mislabelled as a girl (dressed it seems identically to his twin). He may well have been looking forward to some more boyish games with his male cousin :)


Photographers: Dillon Family

Contributors: Luke Gerald Dillon, Augusta Caroline Dillon

Collection: The Clonbrock photographic Collection

Date: c.1914

NLI Ref: CLON1256

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    derangedlemur

    • 19/Sep/2017 09:23:42

    Is the family divided into good and evil or something? Interesting correlation between height and malevolence, if so.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 19/Sep/2017 09:55:47

    I think the two littlies are the twins George and Mary Mahon - https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/18324062134/

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    sharon.corbet

    • 19/Sep/2017 10:05:25

    The older girl in white may be Ursula Mahon, the twins older sister. (Peerage.)

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 19/Sep/2017 10:17:36

    Thanks guys. The "middle" girl good well be Ursula Mahon alright. In terms of location, while I'd assumed we were in Ahascragh, it seems we're probably in Mote Park, County Roscommon?

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 19/Sep/2017 10:47:07

    Of interest - Mote Park House - youtu.be/9w36ZSka3Dw one short video in a series.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 19/Sep/2017 11:26:57

    The Great Stone Lion At the Gate

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 19/Sep/2017 11:28:29

    A fantastic piece of video https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia - Fascinating to hear the 8th Baron Crofton speaking of his forebear's hunting habits :) I'd nearly be inclined to advise the kids to duck (and may explain the need to wear very bright clothing in those gardens :) )

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    Marie-Hélène Cingal

    • 19/Sep/2017 11:51:09

    The two groups don't appear to be living during the same season. Strange!

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    Foxglove

    • 19/Sep/2017 11:59:18

    not a barefoot child in sight ! fabulous period piece and a shame that the adult right is looking down

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    Niall McAuley

    • 19/Sep/2017 12:12:52

    From the NUIG Landed Estates Database: In the 1870s the Crofton estate was comprised of 10,509 acres in county Roscommon

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    sharon.corbet

    • 19/Sep/2017 13:48:17

    I did have a wander through the peerage to try and find suitable "evil" kids among the extended Crofton family, but nobody really looked right. (That said I am pretty bad at aging kids, so if someone wants to give me an age range, I can have another look.)

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    Seuss.

    • 19/Sep/2017 15:30:28

    All holding hands except the older girl, who's too cool for school.

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    Bernard Healy

    • 19/Sep/2017 16:06:04

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet I had a look through the peerage too & couldn't find any suitable Crofton kids either. The tallest little girl in white could very well be 8-ish, which would fit in with her being Ursula Mahon (born Jan 1906). I would place the girl in the dark clothes as being about 12-ish, with the boy in the dark clothes being about 10ish.

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    Bernard Healy

    • 19/Sep/2017 16:14:54

    FWIW, the 1911 Census of the Mahon Household www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002357451/ mentions a children's nurse from England named Caroline Lambert (aged 45). Could she be the lady on the left, or does she look too young to be a 48-year old? Dangerous territory, I know, to discuss women's ages, but I would have the impression that to modern eyes a 48-year old in 1914 would look a little older...

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    common square

    • 19/Sep/2017 16:41:00

    just a guess, but looks like city cousins meet country cousins maybe for the first time. Those on the right look as though they still have their travel clothes on. Sweet photograph.

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    sam2cents

    • 19/Sep/2017 16:53:32

    That's a terrific photo. It has that immediacy about it which I like.

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    Tintin et Milou

    • 19/Sep/2017 19:37:22

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Lol your comment made my day! :)

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 20/Sep/2017 00:32:37

    Amazing stuff as usual all! Sorry I couldn't keep up today - but I've made a (hopefully reasonable) attempt to summarise the excellent contributions. I love it when we manage to confirm the date/location/subject trifecta :)

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    Bernard Healy

    • 20/Sep/2017 10:47:45

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ From what I can tell it was common practice to dress little boys identically to girls for the first years of their life.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 20/Sep/2017 11:45:57

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy] The clothes are not quite identical; the detail is lost in the 'aura' in this photo, but is evident in this wonderful portrait which must have been the same day (going by the daisies!) - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000523133 Btw it is sad and poignant that young Mary only lived for four more years (d. 17/11/1918). George became the 6th Baronet and died in 1987.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 20/Sep/2017 19:38:19

    Absolutely [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia]. I had looked-up George and Mary on "the peerage" last night - as a reminder. Poignant indeed.

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    La Belle Province

    • 21/Sep/2017 00:20:37

    It does my heart good that these people know the value of hats.

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    Dr. Ilia

    • 26/Sep/2017 08:00:08

    masterful capture

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    Meloearth (CrisMelo.com)

    • 02/Nov/2017 03:20:42

    Kids are glowing. :D