Mote, family 1914. Group of women and children standing in line, two women four girls and a boy
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Where: Roscommon, Ireland
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When: 01 January 1914
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While I know I'd half-promised an additional O'Dea shot this morning, I came across this delightful (family?) shot from the Clonbrock collection last night. And couldn't help myself. The kids' clothes are so clean and white, they seem to be glowing :)
Today's contributions help us map this image to Mote Park Estate in Roscommon. It was the home of the Crofton family, and seemingly birthplace of Augusta Caroline Crofton Dillon (Lady Clonbrock), who originated many of the images in the Clonbrock collection. It seems likely that the kids pictured are her grandchildren. The suggestion is that the smaller kids in white are twins George and Mary Mahon, and perhaps Ursula Mahon. Pictured perhaps on a visit with their older Crofton cousins. If so, it is likely that a catalogue correction is required - as the young George is perhaps mislabelled as a girl (dressed it seems identically to his twin). He may well have been looking forward to some more boyish games with his male cousin :)
Photographers: Dillon Family
Contributors: Luke Gerald Dillon, Augusta Caroline Dillon
Collection: The Clonbrock photographic Collection
Date: c.1914
NLI Ref: CLON1256
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Today's contributions help us map this image to Mote Park Estate in Roscommon. It was the home of the Crofton family, and seemingly birthplace of Augusta Caroline Crofton Dillon (Lady Clonbrock), who originated many of the images in the Clonbrock collection. It seems likely that the kids pictured are her grandchildren. The suggestion is that the smaller kids in white are twins George and Mary Mahon, and perhaps Ursula Mahon. Pictured perhaps on a visit with their older Crofton cousins. If so, it is likely that a catalogue correction is required - as the young George is perhaps mislabelled as a girl (dressed it seems identically to his twin). He may well have been looking forward to some more boyish games with his male cousin :)
Photographers: Dillon Family
Contributors: Luke Gerald Dillon, Augusta Caroline Dillon
Collection: The Clonbrock photographic Collection
Date: c.1914
NLI Ref: CLON1256
You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at catalogue.nli.ie
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Owner: National Library of Ireland on The CommonsSource: Flickr Commons
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derangedlemur
Is the family divided into good and evil or something? Interesting correlation between height and malevolence, if so.
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
I think the two littlies are the twins George and Mary Mahon - https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/18324062134/
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
Also seen - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000523123 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000523133 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000523129 and possibly catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000523130
sharon.corbet
The older girl in white may be Ursula Mahon, the twins older sister. (Peerage.)
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
Thanks guys. The "middle" girl good well be Ursula Mahon alright. In terms of location, while I'd assumed we were in Ahascragh, it seems we're probably in Mote Park, County Roscommon?
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
Of interest - Mote Park House - youtu.be/9w36ZSka3Dw one short video in a series.
Niall McAuley
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
A fantastic piece of video https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia - Fascinating to hear the 8th Baron Crofton speaking of his forebear's hunting habits :) I'd nearly be inclined to advise the kids to duck (and may explain the need to wear very bright clothing in those gardens :) )
Marie-Hélène Cingal
The two groups don't appear to be living during the same season. Strange!
Foxglove
not a barefoot child in sight ! fabulous period piece and a shame that the adult right is looking down
Niall McAuley
From the NUIG Landed Estates Database: In the 1870s the Crofton estate was comprised of 10,509 acres in county Roscommon
sharon.corbet
I did have a wander through the peerage to try and find suitable "evil" kids among the extended Crofton family, but nobody really looked right. (That said I am pretty bad at aging kids, so if someone wants to give me an age range, I can have another look.)
Seuss.
All holding hands except the older girl, who's too cool for school.
Bernard Healy
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet I had a look through the peerage too & couldn't find any suitable Crofton kids either. The tallest little girl in white could very well be 8-ish, which would fit in with her being Ursula Mahon (born Jan 1906). I would place the girl in the dark clothes as being about 12-ish, with the boy in the dark clothes being about 10ish.
Bernard Healy
FWIW, the 1911 Census of the Mahon Household www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002357451/ mentions a children's nurse from England named Caroline Lambert (aged 45). Could she be the lady on the left, or does she look too young to be a 48-year old? Dangerous territory, I know, to discuss women's ages, but I would have the impression that to modern eyes a 48-year old in 1914 would look a little older...
common square
just a guess, but looks like city cousins meet country cousins maybe for the first time. Those on the right look as though they still have their travel clothes on. Sweet photograph.
sam2cents
That's a terrific photo. It has that immediacy about it which I like.
Tintin et Milou
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Lol your comment made my day! :)
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Amazing stuff as usual all! Sorry I couldn't keep up today - but I've made a (hopefully reasonable) attempt to summarise the excellent contributions. I love it when we manage to confirm the date/location/subject trifecta :)
Bernard Healy
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ From what I can tell it was common practice to dress little boys identically to girls for the first years of their life.
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy] The clothes are not quite identical; the detail is lost in the 'aura' in this photo, but is evident in this wonderful portrait which must have been the same day (going by the daisies!) - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000523133 Btw it is sad and poignant that young Mary only lived for four more years (d. 17/11/1918). George became the 6th Baronet and died in 1987.
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
Absolutely [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia]. I had looked-up George and Mary on "the peerage" last night - as a reminder. Poignant indeed.
La Belle Province
It does my heart good that these people know the value of hats.
Dr. Ilia
masterful capture
Meloearth (CrisMelo.com)
Kids are glowing. :D