I have never heard of "Botany Bay" in the context of Trinity College. Of course the real Botany Bay holds an important position in Irish history - more for transportation of convicts rather than anything to do with its botanic beauty. I wonder how and when this square obtained its name?
.... "Asked and answered" as they say.
Beachcomberaustralia sourced an amazing "letter to the editor" entry
from an 1875 edition of the Australian Town and Country Journal. Which offers an entertaining answer to the question. The story goes that this area of the college was prone to flooding (and worse). And students would throw undesirable visitors into the quagmire. As a type of punishment - which "some wag" likened to
transporting undesirables to Botany Bay in what were then the penal colonies....
Photographer:
Robert French
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Lawrence Photograph Collection
Date: Catalogue range c.1865-1914. Likely before c.1899
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Niall McAuley
Yes, it is labelled Botany Bay on the OSI 25" map at GeoHive
Niall McAuley
www.tcd.ie says : Botany Bay, once the vegetable garden for the College, was still being cultivated in the early 19th Century. It gradually became enclosed by buildings with Richard Morrison designing the north side of the square in 1816. The Botany Building was designed by W C Marshall of London in 1906. Many of the staff rooms are located in Luce Hall.
Niall McAuley
Should be dateable - we are looking out at the bank building on College street (now the Westin hotel), so it is earlier than the 1907 25", which shows a building in this gap (not the modern one, though). Archiseek says 1867 for the bank. Google TennisCourtView
BeachcomberAustralia
This explanation is priceless! According to Trove from 1879 - The question why - trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/70936493?searchTerm=%2... The answer - trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/70936981?searchTerm=%2...
Niall McAuley
This is L_ROY_02508. L_ROY_02505, L_ROY_02506 and L_ROY_2507 are the Campanile in Trinity, undateable (and amazingly human-free!).
Niall McAuley
L_ROY_02509, 10, 11 are in Trinity. L_ROY_02512 is of the BoI out on College Green. There is a sign for T. Cordingley and Sons, "Vectis". The business was founded in 1848, and active through 1866 at least. Found an 1879 ref.
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia one of your best!!
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Niall, I am surprised to see Botany Bay on the 25" OSI map, well spotted. it makes for a very good trivia question!
BeachcomberAustralia
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] I think the area is still known as Botany Bay according to this recent (April 2017) article about the LUAS - trinitynews.ie/botany-bay-luas-works-halted-until-may-14/ This is a bit geeky - I noticed the roof shadow at bottom left does not match the building which is there now, the Graduates Memorial Building (1902). Photo is before 1899 because "In May 1897, tenders were invited by Trinity College, Dublin, to design a replacement for the residential buildings known as Rotten Row. These buildings were almost architecturally indistinguishable from The Rubrics, which stood from circa 1700. ... ... In 1899 Rotten Row was demolished and work began on the new building. Its construction was largely financed by subscriptions from graduates, and was opened on 31 May 1902." From - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graduates_Memorial_Building
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Geeky but Good...
BeachcomberAustralia
The front of 'Rotten Row' can be see mid-left in this one, matching the far 'row' with tall chimneys and dormer windows as seen in the shadow above - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000334856 Then all changed after 1902 GMB - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000325476 Ed. And the curly bits were added to the "far row" 'The Rubicks' in 1894 - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rubrics Which does help date a lot of the Trinity photos, but messes up any chronology in the Lawrence cataloguing system - see [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley/]'s hard work above.
oaktree_brian_1976
that was Khan's ship in Star Trek!
aidanhodson
What's that fella doing hanging out the window, second from top right? a bit precarious!
BeachcomberAustralia
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mise-le-meas/ It's alright, he's an intellectual ! Flickr is sometimes amazing. Almost - https://www.flickr.com/photos/achesonblog/3732730284/
dancingmick
the building labelled printing house is, in fact, the dining hall