Man talking to woman in cobbled square, church visible in background, Co. Dublin

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Where: Dublin, , Ireland

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When: 16 June 1954

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Now this is the way to start a week! A dog, cars, a very different location, cobbles, tram lines, a spire and buildings. The piece-de-resistance for me is the couple chatting in the middle of the road. Can it be Elinor and Reginald Wiltshire themselves? I note that she is wearing stockings with seams; and not only that but the seams are straight. She may not be best pleased if the man's dog messes that up!

With thanks to today's amazing contributions we've been able to significantly flesh-out the context for this image. The first (and perhaps most important) consensus confirmation is that the lady pictured is the photographer Elinor Wiltshire, whose passing we marked earlier this year. She is very likely captured here by her husband Reginald. The next consensus confirmation is that this image was likely taken slightly before or after the Wiltshires took a series of images of several well-known writers who were marking Bloomsday with a tour of sites and sights from Joyce's Ulysses. Even without that context, this candid image is a great capture, and we're delighted to use it as something of a trigger for a series of Wiltshire Collection images which we may focus-upon for this week...

Collection: Wiltshire Photographic Collection

Date: 16 June 1954

NLI Ref: WIL pk12[6]

You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at catalogue.nli.ie

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Owner: National Library of Ireland on The Commons
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    Foxglove

    • 24/Apr/2017 07:45:52

    the little dog is up to mischief?

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    KestrelSprite

    • 24/Apr/2017 08:31:45

    Looks like two Austin cars in the picture: an Austin A40 Devon (1947-52) on the right and a pre-war Austin Seven, which I think is a Long saloon of 1932-4, on the left.

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    derangedlemur

    • 24/Apr/2017 08:35:24

    Looks like St Patrick's in Monkstown: www.google.ie/maps/@53.2933246,-6.1533273,3a,75y,173.16h,...

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    derangedlemur

    • 24/Apr/2017 08:35:46

    With tramlines back in the day: maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V2,722930,728547,11,9

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    derangedlemur

    • 24/Apr/2017 08:36:43

    Here's the view with the gable in the right hand edge: www.google.ie/maps/@53.2936116,-6.1540161,3a,75y,168.73h,...

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 24/Apr/2017 08:53:04

    16 June 1954 was a Wednesday, and importantly it was Bloomsday. This is one of several photos taken on that day. I wonder what is going on ... catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000050507 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000050542 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000050369 etc ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloomsday

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 24/Apr/2017 08:57:55

    And also the 50th Anniversary of Bloomsday ...

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    O Mac

    • 24/Apr/2017 09:00:07

    Been here before. www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/9054949487/in/photolist-e...

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    CASSIDY PHOTOGRAPHY

    • 24/Apr/2017 09:26:49

    Could this happen in Jeddah or Islamabad? Could such an interesting photo be taken?

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 24/Apr/2017 09:32:32

    Thanks https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] and https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia. As this seemed a candid shot (and wasn't labelled with the same Bloomsday association), we hadn't considered that it was related to others in that series. Perhaps the Wiltshires were capturing some snapshots of local life - before/after the "main event"? Certainly the man has the look of a chap on an errand. Rather than someone going to an "event" (dog and bag in tow...).

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    foss54

    • 24/Apr/2017 09:50:20

    Beautiful image.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 24/Apr/2017 09:59:54

    There is a frontal view of the "straight-seamed-stocking lady" outside Michael Scott's house in Sandycove. Same haircut and clothes, with a seated photographer - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000050376 If that helps with anything ...

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    DannyM8

    • 24/Apr/2017 10:05:22

    I like the Dog

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    DannyM8

    • 24/Apr/2017 10:08:21

    I have a thought that the lady could be Elinor herself?? Have a look here catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000046651

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    guliolopez

    • 24/Apr/2017 10:35:12

    Based on https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] and https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia's examples of other images of the lady, seems likely she could be Elinor herself. In short: "I concur" (though I'd say the man is a local, rather than a visitor or someone necessarily directly associated with the photographer)

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    Niall McAuley

    • 24/Apr/2017 11:21:11

    There is an article and linked video (!!) on 1954s Bloomsday here, no sign of Elinor in it, though.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 24/Apr/2017 14:28:07

    That's an amazing piece of video [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley]. Although could perhaps have done without the shot of the lads having a slash caught-short on the slipway :) The text notes that

    though it was only mid-morning, Brian O’Nolan was already drunk[...] As was his custom, he had been drinking that morning in the pubs around the Cattle Market, where customers, supposedly about their lawful business, would be served from 7:30 in the morning
    Do we recon these were the cattle markets of Cowtown?

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    Niall McAuley

    • 24/Apr/2017 15:05:41

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland Yes, I think the pubs around the cattle market had early licenses (the same way the pubs along the Docks did) to cater for the workers who had strange hours. I think it was of O'Nolan that it was said that he knew the opening times of every pub and the closing time of none. (..or was that Brendan Behan?).

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    La Belle Province

    • 24/Apr/2017 16:46:17

    Not a hat in sight, but the lively little Westie makes up for it.

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    sam2cents

    • 24/Apr/2017 18:36:35

    I like the way you can see this image everywhere in real life today. A moment in time, but a classic moment.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 24/Apr/2017 21:29:44

    I wonder if Mr Reginald Wiltshire had a couple of drinks himself, and took this snapshot of the lovely Elinor being 'upskirted' by the inquisitive Westie for his own enjoyment. Hence it is not included with other Bloomsday photos. Reminds me of another classic with 400K views- https://www.flickr.com/photos/statelibraryofnsw/3210637493/

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 24/Apr/2017 23:22:49

    Thanks again all! We are absolutely delighted with confirmation that this is Elinor Wiltshire. And, as we had a few Wiltshire images "stored up", we are going to use this image as a trigger/kick-off for something of a "Wiltshire Week". While we can't promise dogs every day (mischievous or otherwise), we can hopefully look forward to some of the candid (and often sensitive) snapshots of the capital that makes the Wiltshire Collection one of our favourites....

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    O Mac

    • 24/Apr/2017 23:45:24

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] She had very striking cheek bones and a lovely smile. catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000046625

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    Hannahs Lens

    • 25/Apr/2017 09:37:09

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ . Great photo and a sartorial feat, the little Westie adds something special to it.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 25/Apr/2017 18:19:18

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/hannahs_lens I agree to both the sartorial element and the Westie. The second I saw this image I just felt that it was special, the atmosphere captured, the elegance of the two human subjects and the little dog made it one for the ages! Thank you for dropping by and for the lovely comment!

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    albertgunet

    • 26/Apr/2017 02:33:21

    magnifique photo

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    Mundus Gregorius

    • 27/Apr/2017 18:47:36

    A shot full of atmosphere !

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    dearbhaile2

    • 28/Apr/2017 09:00:19

    The area looks familiar , is it Sandymount ?

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 29/Apr/2017 14:24:48

    Hi [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] - it's Monkstown (StreetView).

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    Dún Laoghaire Micheál

    • 01/May/2017 18:53:08

    Whoop! Whoop! I am reliably informed by two trusted sources (one of whom lived in a house visible in the background) that the gentleman in the shot is none other than local resident, Lennox Robinson.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 01/May/2017 21:37:36

    Esmé Stuart Lennox Robinson (1886 – 1958) - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lennox_Robinson (includes a photo). What was his dog called ?!

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    Can Pac Swire

    • 02/May/2017 12:16:37

    What a lovely photo!

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    Dún Laoghaire Micheál

    • 02/May/2017 18:20:08

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Don't know the mut's name; but if I had that surname and it was a bitch, it could only be "Herestoyoumissus"

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 03/Jan/2020 08:42:44

    More here - https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/49315089727/

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 13/May/2020 21:11:30

    1917 Caricature of Lennox Robinson by Tom Lalor. A similar pose nearly 40 years earlier - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000232809