Westmoreland Street (looking to O'Connell Bridge, including a tram), Dublin City, Co. Dublin
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This lovely shot of Westmoreland Street from a high viewpoint is from the Eason Collection, and is todays offering. It even includes a tram, or so the cataloguer says, but I can see a couple of others nearer the bridge. No bazaars or arcades here - but lots of people and modes of transport!
As location was already confirmed, much of the discussion (below) on this image centered on the date. The lower-end of the catalogue range (1900) seems about right - though Clery's and the Imperial Hotel signage in the distance might indicate a date after 1902. The upper-end of the range (1939) was definitively lowered - to 1916. As much of this streetscape (and not least the Dublin Bread Company building clearly visible) were destroyed during the events of Easter week 1916....
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Collection: Eason Photographic Collection
Date: Catalogue range c.1900-1939. Though certainly after 1910 and before Easter 1916.
NLI Ref: EAS_1767
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As location was already confirmed, much of the discussion (below) on this image centered on the date. The lower-end of the catalogue range (1900) seems about right - though Clery's and the Imperial Hotel signage in the distance might indicate a date after 1902. The upper-end of the range (1939) was definitively lowered - to 1916. As much of this streetscape (and not least the Dublin Bread Company building clearly visible) were destroyed during the events of Easter week 1916....
Photographer: Unknown
Collection: Eason Photographic Collection
Date: Catalogue range c.1900-1939. Though certainly after 1910 and before Easter 1916.
NLI Ref: EAS_1767
You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at catalogue.nli.ie
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Niall McAuley
Previously:
Niall McAuley
This is later than the Coral Snow shot - the swan necked lights no longer have glass globes, but strange danglers.
Niall McAuley
The danglers are 1920-23 according to our favourite reference on Dublin Street Lighting from archiseek
derangedlemur
Taken from no. 7 Front Square, by the look of it.
Niall McAuley
On those lights, I see both kinds - danglers near and globes far. So I think this is in the period 1920-23.
derangedlemur
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Is it not pre-1916? The bread company still has a lid on it.
Niall McAuley
https://www.flickr.com/photos/8468254@N02 Good point. Archiseek essay lets us down! Rereading it, there is a pic of 1916 destruction with a dangly light in the essay itself, so the evidence was there all along. Must make a not to self - dangly lights appeared before 1916 rising.
Niall McAuley
An interesting sign over a door at right: ST ANDREWS MEMBERS. A club? Today in streetview, it reads PROVINCIAL BANK CHAMBERS Edit: it may have been ST ANDREWS CHAMBERS, not MEMBERS after all
Niall McAuley
The DIA (with a snazzy new look!) entry on 41 Westmoreland Street says the stonework was renovated in 1911. I can't tell yet if this is pre or post.
Niall McAuley
The Scottish Widows had more than one building called ST ANDREWS CHAMBERS, there's one in Manchester, too.
Niall McAuley
This one (latest 1901) shows tall straight lights, no swan necks, globed or dangly.
Niall McAuley
Clerys had work done in 1902 to include the Imperial Hotel. I see a sign for the hotel on the end of Clery's building here, and the building looks to be its 1916 size. So 1902-16?
Niall McAuley
Cramer Wood and Co. at #4 were a piano shop, big in the late 1800s. This building is from 1869. Reconstructed in 1931 for Fitzgerald & Co. A quick newspaper search says there were here through 1915, so no help.
Carol Maddock
Just to let ye all know that the independent adjudicator from KPMG was in with us at the National Library this morning to preside over the awards ceremony for [https://www.flickr.com/photos/91590691@N05/]. Micheál won the caption competition a couple of weeks back. We were delighted to have a chat with him, and hope he'll make full use of the voucher for our Café Joly. This is also the lovely print of Queenstown that he chose. Micheál's great grandfather's business is advertised on the gable wall to the right. [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/27112743213/]
Niall McAuley
https://www.flickr.com/photos/47297387@N03 Fix! Boo!
Carol Maddock
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley How very dare you! I'm shocked at your insinuations, shocked I tell you!
Dún Laoghaire Micheál
Delighted to have met all the important incumbents of Library Towers. Great programme of events coming up there too. Can't wait for the upcoming Geanealogists workshop that might solve the mystery of how my gable-end forebear managed to be married twice - on the same day - by the same Celebrant - and in two different Diocese (same denomination) and still avoid an appearance in Civil Registration.
guliolopez
I've nothing material to add. The date range that https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley proposes (1902-1916) looks fairly solid to me. My only contributions are to spot my old office. And a very nautical looking flagpole with guy ropes - crying-out for someone to fly the ensign of the Crimson Permanent Assurance :)
dantheserene
photogoodwin, what is the person spending a penny on?
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
Don't mean to frighten the Flickroonies, but there is a ghostly Mysterious Lady in Black near the Fleet St intersection (see note), also seen nearby in www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/9005122884/
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
Sometimes you just have to do it yourself! - Streetview (sort of, at ground level) - goo.gl/maps/CvDzf4aZnLR2
Dún Laoghaire Micheál
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] Thats probably one of those Scotish Widows who just popped out of the corner office for a smoking break. The Widows were in Dublin since the 1860s
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
https://www.flickr.com/photos/91590691@N05 Ha!
CHG PRO PHOTOGRAPHY incorporating the APL archives
Perhaps interesting to note that the underground toilets depicted in the foreground have recently been filled in as a part of the new LUAS Cross City works......!
Dr. Ilia
Superb shot
Can Pac Swire
What is the Ocean Chambers? I added a note and a tag in the image... hope that is OK. Feel free to remove it if it's not appropriate for me to add.
Niall McAuley
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/18378305@N00] It is OK to leave notes and comments on any photo in the NLI stream, that is how we learn about them. But I'm afraid I have no idea what the Ocean Chambers building is about. I see a VR for Victoria Regina, so built after 1837. The DIA says 1-3 Westmoreland Street were replaced by the current brick/limestone building in 1935.
Can Pac Swire
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Thank you Niall! This is fun! I love Ireland and visited the country in 2013. I hope to return in not too distant a future. Greetings from Toronto.
Niall McAuley
The ball drop in the distance (see note) features in Ulysses, Episode 8, Bloom crosses O'Connell bridge heading South: Mr Bloom moved forward, raising his troubled eyes. Think no more about that. After one. Timeball on the ballastoffice is down. Dunsink time. Fascinating little book that is of sir Robert Ball's. Parallax. I never exactly understood. There's a priest. Could ask him. Par it's Greek: parallel, parallax. Later in the text, Bloom says the ball is on Greenwich time, the clock on Dunsink time, which reminds me of this one:
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Brilliant, the things you learn around here!!!
Niall McAuley
I note a letter box outside Bewleys: the NIAH says: Freestanding cast-iron pillar post box, erected c.1915. Shallow domed cap with fluted cornice, moulded neck and plinth. Curved door to front (west) elevation, with integrated handle. Raised ‘GR’ royal cypher The c.1915 is a bit approximate, but it is a GR box, so has to be 1910+, narrowing the date range to 1910-16
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Date range updated. Thank you,