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When: 01 January 1910

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Bain News Service,, publisher.

Count Moltke, wife and child

[between ca. 1910 and ca. 1915]

1 negative : glass ; 5 x 7 in. or smaller.

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Title from unverified data provided by the Bain News Service on the negatives or caption cards.
Forms part of: George Grantham Bain Collection (Library of Congress).

Format: Glass negatives.

Rights Info: No known restrictions on publication.

Repository: Library of Congress, Prints and Photographs Division, Washington, D.C. 20540 USA, hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/pp.print

General information about the Bain Collection is available at hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/pp.ggbain

Higher resolution image is available (Persistent URL): hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/ggbain.11812

Call Number: LC-B2- 2547-10

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    captainslack

    • 30/Aug/2008 00:16:38

    This is stretch & I might be totally wrong here, but bear with me. In the late 60's/early 70's there was a soap opera named "Dark Shadows". One of the main characters was played by an actress named Alexandra Moltke. Her IMDB bio says: "Daughter of a Danish count and diplomat, Carl Adam Greve von Moltke, and wife Mabel Wilson, and paternal granddaughter of Carl Greve von Moltke (1869-1935) and his American wife Cornelia Van Rensselaer Thayer, who had some Dutch American ancestry." Could this be Carl Greve von Moltke & his wife Cornelia?

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    whyaduck

    • 30/Aug/2008 05:46:42

    The Moltke family was quite large, with branches in Denmark, Sweden and Germany. The Count might possibly be a Danish Moltke, but I think it more likely that he is the Helmuth Graf von Moltke (1876-1939) who is listed on this page that Google turned up at a genealogy website. If so, then the boy in the photo would be Helmuth James von Moltke (1907-1944), leader of the Kreisau Circle (named for the family's seat in Silesia), which opposed the Nazi regime during WWII. Helmuth James Graf von Moltke was arrested in 1944 and executed by the Gestapo in 1945. He is the subject of a Wikipedia article. Count von Moltke's wife was the former Dorothy Rose-Innes, daughter of the South African Jurist Sir James Rose-Innes.

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    Harry Angstrom

    • 31/Aug/2008 18:32:04

    There were two Moltke's who were very important German military officers, Chief of Staff both, elder one was uncle of younger one. Both very major figures in period leading up to WW1 and then during the war. Helmuth von Moltke the younger, was chief of the German general staff at outbreak of WW1 and a major figure in WW1. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmuth_von_Moltke_the_Younger His uncle was the military architect of the German victories of 1866 and 1870.

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    whyaduck

    • 01/Sep/2008 00:04:53

    The two officers mentioned by Harry Angstrom are usually known as Helmuth von Moltke the Elder (1800-1891) and Helmuth von Moltke the Younger (1848-1916.) The uncle did not inherit the title of Graf (Count), but it was granted to him in 1870, for the services he rendered to the nation. The nephew never held a comital title, and thus could not be the Count in this Bain photo. If this photo does not depict a Danish Greve (Count) Moltke (about whom I can find nothing on the Internet), then he must be the heir of Wilhelm Graf von Moltke (1845-1905), whose ancestral title was tied to the ownership of Kreisau. As Helmuth Graf von Moltke zu Kreisau was born in 1876 (and would have inherited the title on the death of his father in 1905), and as his son, Helmuth James, was born in 1907, they would have been the apparent ages of the two Moltkes in this ca. 1910 photo.

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    Harry Angstrom

    • 01/Sep/2008 02:46:31

    This NYTimes article talks about a Danish count Carl Moltke who was the Danish minister to the US, who is being transferred to Berlin (August 7, 1912) query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9504E2DB123CE633A... there was also a famous German naval ship named the Moltke, info here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Moltke_(1910)

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    whyaduck

    • 01/Sep/2008 04:05:39

    An excellent discovery! A minister to the United States would be very likely to have had his picture taken for the press. If this is indeed Count Carl Moltke, then the boy is probably Carl Adam Moltke, father of the actress Alexandra Isles (nee Moltke) mentioned by captainslack in the first comment above. Here is a web page on which you can read an excerpt from a book about the von Moltke family, which includes an interview with Alexandra Isles. As Mrs. Isles was born in 1947, her father could well have been about the age of the boy in this photo at the time it was taken (he was born in Copenhagen on September 13, 1908, according to an entry near the bottom of this web page about the Van Rensselaer family.) The woman in the photo would, of course, be the former Cornelia Van Rensselaer Thayer. Perhaps Alexandra Isles, who is now a producer and director of documentaries (according to her Wikipedia biography) will come across this page and be able to tell us whether or not this photo depicts her father and grandparents.

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    hawthorne1

    • 07/Sep/2008 21:58:22

    The photo is definitely of my grandparents with my father, but I have never seen it before. They are indeed the Danish Moltkes.

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    ramonzelada

    • 19/Oct/2008 21:52:21

    Carl Moltke is Descendent Of Graf Adam Frederik Adamsom Moltke. Is Parents Direct of My Grandmother Graffin Ottilie Von Moltke Winslow (1880-1930 Chile).daugther of The Adam Carl Cristian Graf Von Moltke Von Rantzau

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    PatDiGeorge

    • 15/Mar/2011 19:14:35

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] I have been researching WWII Stockholm for a book I am writing: www.libertyladybook.com There was a dinner in October 1944 for an American General that a Count Moltke and his wife attended. I would love to confirm that it was indeed Count Carl Adam Moltke and his wife Mab who were there.

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    Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )

    • 26/Mar/2011 16:22:14

    I started an entry in WIkipedia for him: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Moltke