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An unusual Poole photo for you today. Our catalogue states that this is the Duke of Devonshire fishing, I presume he is fishing on the Munster Blackwater, unless of course you know something different....
While perhaps still none-the-wiser on the embellishments to today's image, today's contributors (and especially O Mac, Niall McAuley, ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq & ofarrl) have confirmed that this image was likely taken between 1901 and 1908. When Spencer Cavendish was 8th Duke of Devonshire. The consensus is that the image was taken on the Munster Blackwater - if not close to the family's seat at Lismore, then perhaps slightly downstream....
Photographer: A. H. Poole
Collection: Poole Photographic Studio, Waterford
Date: c.1901 -1954. Though likely c.1901-1908
NLI Ref: POOLEWP 1397
You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at catalogue.nli.ie
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While perhaps still none-the-wiser on the embellishments to today's image, today's contributors (and especially O Mac, Niall McAuley, ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq & ofarrl) have confirmed that this image was likely taken between 1901 and 1908. When Spencer Cavendish was 8th Duke of Devonshire. The consensus is that the image was taken on the Munster Blackwater - if not close to the family's seat at Lismore, then perhaps slightly downstream....
Photographer: A. H. Poole
Collection: Poole Photographic Studio, Waterford
Date: c.1901 -1954. Though likely c.1901-1908
NLI Ref: POOLEWP 1397
You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at catalogue.nli.ie
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Owner: National Library of Ireland on The CommonsSource: Flickr Commons
Views: 17495
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O Mac
Really fishy is right. Some really bad scraping and scratching. You're probably right about it being the Blackwater. There's another Poole where Lismore Castle is in the background. The nearest Google go is the nearby N72 where I think we see the same sloping hill in the distance. Streetview Somewhere here maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V2,605227,598959,11,9
Niall McAuley
8th was Duke from 1891-1908. 9th from March 1908-1936 10th from 1938-1950. 11th from 1950-2004
Niall McAuley
I think the gent with the rod and beard is Spencer Compton Cavendish, the 8th Duke, so 1901-1908. Early use of photoshop to add a fish that was "this big".
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Are all fishermen liars or do all liars fish?
Niall McAuley
His Dukeship was patron of "Lismore College" in 1901-1905, William Wright was headmaster.
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
I have just added "Lieutenant Storey (or more likely Stoney?)" to our 50,000+ Views Album. https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/11794701355/stats/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/sets/72157651136879037
Niall McAuley
There are hits in the Irish Times Archive on 24th and 27th of March 1908 for "Duke at Lismore"
Niall McAuley
Also on the 24th is "The late Duke's Career", so the articles about Lismore are looking back after his death. Someone with a subscription might find some dates?
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
This is Quite Interesting, although it must refer to a previous Duke of Devonshire -
From trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/111321939 (1892) Edit: I think the case was in 1882 (ie the previous Duke) but I don't begin to understand the legalese - swarb.co.uk/neill-v-duke-of-devonshire-hl-1882/ Also in the NLI - sources.nli.ie/Record/MS_UR_026927ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
Wikipedia has good articles about Spencer Compton Cavendish, 8th Duke of Devonshire, KG GCVO PC PC (23 July 1833 – 24 March 1908); his mistress Catherine Walters aka "Skittles"; and his wife who was previously married to the Duke of Manchester, and was known as the "Double Duchess" !! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_Cavendish,_8th_Duke_of_Devo... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_Walters en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisa_Cavendish,_Duchess_of_Devons...
guliolopez
I for one can't fault the logic that this is the 8th Duke (putting it before 1908), and that it's on the Blackwater by Lismore Castle. Well done https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] and https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley. The Wikipedia articles that https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia links also make for interesting reading - especially those on Catherine Walters and the Double Duchess :)
oaktree_brian_1976
that's quite the fishing rod. Gentleman at the right has a gaff hook, so that's a fairly large fish.
ofarrl
The river in the photo looks much wider then the Blackwater is at Lismore near the castle. This is more likely downstream from Cappoquin, possibly somewhere near Dromana.
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Thanks all. Indeed I forgot that we met the Duke of Devonshire (and his household at Lismore) in another Poole image from around the same period. Seems pretty cut and dried that this image is of the same man - Spencer Cavendish, the 8th duke - possibly within a few years of the image taken at the door to Lismore Castle. Below. Still not sure why the studio felt the need to "embellish" the image - perhaps part of the commission. While perhaps slightly downstream as [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] suggests, I've mapped this to the same location as the other Lismore/Cavendish/Devonshire images.... www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/9021821673/
silverio10
Buenas fotos antiguas .