Before the days of helicopters and drones a church steeple or high hill provided a "birds eye view" as in this shot. Lurgan appears a well developed town with industry and institutions aplenty back when this shot was taken.
Thanks to today's contributions we know that the photographer captured this from a high vantage point on
Lurgan's Shankill Parish Church (COI), looking north - along the aptly named North Street - towards
St Peter's Church (Cath). We have yet to refine the date significantly, but it's obviously before the removal of the gas holders off Ulster Street....
Photographer:
Unknown
Collection:
Eason Photographic Collection
Date: between ca. 1900-1939
NLI Ref:
EAS_3978
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Info:
Owner:
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
Source:
Flickr Commons
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B-59
Taken from the spire of Shankill Parish Church, heading north
B-59
"Early in 1888 a decision was taken to build a power loom factory on a site in Victoria Street, with capacity for 500 looms. The original chimney shaft at the factory was 150 feet high, the tallest in Lurgan." www.geocaching.com/geocache/GC2PNVY_linen-heritage-lurgan...
B-59
On the right is St Peter's Catholic Church, North St., built in 1832 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lurgan
Niall McAuley
I see Lurgan Model Primary School just above the gasometers.
O Mac
J Herbert "Established 1883" (written on gable middle foreground). Joseph Herbert is to be found in the 1901 Census
but he and his family are gone by 1911. Would suggest we're looking at Pre 1911Niall McAuley
Down in North Street, I see a sign for J. Herbert. Looking at lennonwylie.co.uk, in 1901, no Herbert in North Street. In 1907, Joseph Herbert, Draper and Furnisher was in North Street. Still there in 1918. (Mind you, his gable says "established 1883"!)
DannyM8
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Owen - I see him still there in 1911 Joseph Herbert 1911
Niall McAuley
Carnegie Library and War Memorial would be good for dating, but are out of shot.
O Mac
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Ah! So he was..Thanks Danny.
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DRONEVIEW !! - youtu.be/0qPZ2kXryIc - I am thoroughly disoriented and can't find an equivalent angle - anybody?
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
Is this the spire that Mr Eason was up ? ... https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/7163415146/
O Mac
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] Yes.... from there he was looking NE. www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=t29rr0gg51wn&lvl=18.23&...
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[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Thank you, but Bing is having a hissy-fit with me today. But St Peter's Church has a Live Webcam - Woohoo! - www.lurganparish.com/stpeters-webcam/
AndyBrii
Ahh .. the gas works (far left) . The Ulster Directory (1910) contains a lot of useful information including a list of businesses and a list of Inhabitants. Gas Works, William street— (1910) W. Tallentire, manager; Fred W. Meagahan, secretary. Board of directors meet on the first Monday of each month www.libraryireland.com/UlsterDirectory1910/Lurgan.php and
O Mac
The ivy-covered building in the foreground looks like it was a police station (now gone). The ivy growth would suggest that this Fergus O Connor photograph might have been taken a wee while later.... note Royal Irish Fusiliers recruitment posters...
derangedlemur
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] I doesn't seem to be marked as a police station on any of the OSNI editions. The building at the end of the row is a hall, and the one in the corner plot is a school. maps.ehsni.gov.uk/SixInchSeries/Default.aspx 3rd edition seems to be the best match.
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
St Peter's spire was dedicated in 1901 - "1897-1901 – The magnificent spire of St Peter’s Church, planned by a parish priest who had achieved so much in enlarging St Peter’s, was dedicated by Dr O’Neill, Bishop of Dromore, on August 25th 1901. The Reverend James O’Hare died in 1897 when the initial work on the spire had begun. The spire was completed during the pastorate of the Reverend Michael McConville." From - www.lurganparish.com/parish-churches/church-2/
O Mac
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] There is a harp emblem over the door. Also, It's hard to read but the signage to the left of the door may say "Labour Exchange"?
derangedlemur
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Ah. I thought you meant the buildings on the corner of Ulster Street. The one in the O'Connor shot is definitely an RIC barracks, as evidenced by a quick google image search for "Lurgan RIC Barracks": irishconstabulary.com/topic/1610/Armagh#.Vx4si3pO2iw
Niall McAuley
That is definitely a labour Exchange sign, like this one:
Niall McAuley
This Eason shot in the archive shows the corner shop of William St/North St. as Gamble, a jeweller/pawnbroker. This is consistent with the signage here , which is not quite legible. Gamble does not appear in the 1901/1911 census, but is in the 1918 street directory as Gamble, Miss, William Street. I tell a lie - in 1901 we had Gamble, Thompson, pawn broker, William Street
Niall McAuley
Gambles in the 1901 census (rather ancient), reveals that the business was not Thompson & Gamble, rather that the gentleman's name was Thompson Gamble.
Niall McAuley
The 1911 census seems to have numbered the street in the opposite direction, house 96 is a pawn shop, but not inhabited.
silverio10
Buenas fotos antiguas .
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
Gracias https://www.flickr.com/photos/graullers and thanks all for today's inputs. I got lost a little today about which of the Eason collection Lurgan shots we were discussing at times :) But have tried to at least capture the location basics in the description and tags. It would be great to refine the date range a little - sometimes made a little harder when we venture a little further north than the areas covered by the (slightly more accessible) OSI mapping tool.....