Modern building, possibly an hotel with "Butler" shop attached (is Lisdoonvarna)

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This morning we have a rather bleak looking building, apparently in the middle of nowhere, with a goodly supply of horse manure and a bowler hatted corner boy for local colour.

And with thanks to today's contributor's, we now know that this is the King Thomond Hotel (formerly Thomond House and the Eagle Hotel), just south of Lisdoonvarna in County Clare. Possibly captured in the late 19th century....


Photographers: Frederick Holland Mares, James Simonton

Contributor: John Fortune Lawrence

Collection: Stereo Pairs Photograph Collection

Date: between ca. 1860-1883

NLI Ref: STP_1901

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    O Mac

    • 13/Apr/2016 07:39:25

    Lisdoonvarna..Thomond House .....edit. Eagle Hotel Streetview "In 1870, one thousand five hundred people visited the Spas. In the same year, on a site close to the Gowlaun Spring, then the principal well, a first-class hotel, The Eagle, later to become the famous Thomond, was opened". ------"In 1906, the Eagle Hotel was re-opened as the Thomond"--- A Handbook to Lisdoonvarna and its Vicinity:

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    pellethepoet

    • 13/Apr/2016 09:14:03

    Robert French photo without the local colour - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000323192

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 13/Apr/2016 09:21:10

    There's a great big eagle perched on the porch (thanks megazoom). In the French photo too.

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    O Mac

    • 13/Apr/2016 11:11:39

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] I'd be nearly sure that this is that same eagle It's up the road at the entrance to Eagle Lodge which was once the hotel owners house.

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    AndyBrii

    • 13/Apr/2016 11:50:44

    This photo could possibly have been taken before gas lighting was available in the area. The French photo has a gas light over the portal. When was gas (gasworks) available in the area?

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    O Mac

    • 13/Apr/2016 12:18:21

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/angeljim46] Lisdoonvarna never had a town gasworks as such. That lamp would more than likely have been an acetylene lamp where calcium carbide was the fuel------ same was used on bicycle and early moter car lights at one time. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbide_lamp www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/26141956420/in/datepos... www.hatheway.net/09_parallel_mg_technologies.htm

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    AndyBrii

    • 13/Apr/2016 12:56:24

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Thanks. Another French photo shows coalgas street lights down the road a few metres from the hotel (now Imperial Hotel). catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000323200 I don't know if acetylene burners looked like this in street lights in this period. Acetylene burners emitted voluminous black smoke and they needed a generator(reactor) close at hand . The gas light in the Hotel portal shows the typical burner and configuration of coalgas street lights in the 1870s-1900s.

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    pellethepoet

    • 13/Apr/2016 13:34:40

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/angeljim46 Love the harpist and fiddle player in that Imperial Hotel photo, Andy.

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    AndyBrii

    • 13/Apr/2016 14:01:22

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/pellethepoet. Adds a bit of colour to the street.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 13/Apr/2016 19:11:31

    Thanks all. Interesting as usual that the person preparing the stereo slides blanked out the sky - definitely was the done thing to avoid complicating the stereo effect. Glad that they didn't do the same with the roadway :)

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 13/Apr/2016 22:09:49

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] I had not heard the expression 'corner boy' before - "chiefly Irish: A disreputable man or youth who spends his time loitering on the street." - www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/corner-boy How very useful. We can play Spot the Corner Boy as well as Spot the Dog.

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    AndyBrii

    • 14/Apr/2016 05:00:12

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I just googled coal gas plants and acetylene gas plants in towns in Ireland. You were right and large hotels and houses away from the gas mains used small coal gas plants or acetylene generators. Which is which at the Imperial Hotel remains a question mark. The street lights suggested that the (coal) gas mains made their way to Lisdoonvarna in early 20th Cent.

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    O Mac

    • 14/Apr/2016 11:33:35

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/angeljim46] I was just speculating about it being acethylene as it was a cheaper and much simpler installation than coal gas and there being only one lamp visable outside. The Clare Library have some more Lawrence photographs of the hotel's interior which were taken post 1906 when the Hotel had been enlarged and renamed Thomond House. There are only oil lamps evident which is odd considering there was that gas lamp outside earlier. As you say we'll never know for sure.

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 25/Apr/2016 10:36:00

    Another Big Bird (eagle?) on top of the building at right in Lurgan here ... https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/7163415146/