"Lake surrounded by mountains in an unknown location" (is lakes of Killarney)

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We are with Fergus O'Connor today. I find this a most fascinating photograph. Can you please tell me two things, firstly I would like to know the location and secondly I would like to know what exactly is going on in the right foreground?

With thanks for today's contributions, it's established that this is the Upper Lake at Killarney. As to what's happening in the right foreground (the photo-bombed "arrest" by a truncheon wielding lawman), we've heard several theories. But nothing to explain the odd dichotomy of serene landscape and (possibly staged) action/commotion. Perhaps it will always remain a mystery - as perhaps was intended....


Photographer: Fergus O’Connor

Collection: Fergus O’Connor Collection

Date: 1900-1920

NLI Ref: OCO 262

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    AndyBrii

    • 31/Mar/2016 08:37:02

    There's a bit of an act going on in the foreground - 'Policeman apprehending a villain'! or .. Fergus 'got a scoop' for the newspapers!

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    O Mac

    • 31/Mar/2016 08:49:01

    A bit of messin' on the Upper Lake, Killarney?....in the townland of Gallavally, Co. Kerry. Same view on a postcard.

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    DannyM8

    • 31/Mar/2016 08:54:59

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/angeljim46 I said to myself what is Andy talking about? Then I saw the Policeman and the villain, what the heck is going on there?

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    Niall McAuley

    • 31/Mar/2016 09:06:31

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Same colourized postcard at the Library of Congress (fancy!)

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 31/Mar/2016 09:06:44

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Thanks for the location Owen, well spotted.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 31/Mar/2016 09:06:53

    Mugging for the camera??

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    O Mac

    • 31/Mar/2016 10:55:46

    Mr. Stereo Pair took a picture from the same spot a few years earlier. The islands have interesting names 6" OS Map. ?

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    Ara Musha

    • 31/Mar/2016 11:29:33

    Goons with a view.

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    oaktree_brian_1976

    • 31/Mar/2016 12:49:16

    huh. I didn't even notice the copper and bad guy until you pointed it out. ruin a perfectly nice landscape.

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    Dún Laoghaire Micheál

    • 31/Mar/2016 13:07:02

    A photographic thought. I wonder were the characters transposed in post production? The picture 'exposure' seems perfect for a still day with no waves, direct sunlight or shadows - so I'm guessing shutter speed was relatively long (but I'm not an authority). In those conditions, the (moving?) characters would surely have been at least a little bit blurred. Either that or they remained perfectly posed to yield such detail. Or was a Victorian flash used on (just) them? (or maybe that's a Victorian 'flasher' being apprehended)

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    Dún Laoghaire Micheál

    • 31/Mar/2016 13:10:58

    Now I'm wondering is this a more modern Cinematic Still? In which case, what Film?

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 31/Mar/2016 13:16:19

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Is the shadow on his face made by the "loop holder" of the truncheon? - again it seems to be in perfect focus.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 31/Mar/2016 14:02:24

    The lighting and the loop-shadow match the other shadows in the picture. I think this pair really are in the scene, but are posing - holding still for the camera. They are both sitting down, making holding still easier. The man about to be truncheoned has a big cheesy grin!

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 31/Mar/2016 14:48:59

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Niall, I think you are correct about them being part of the photo, It is hard to think of a reason why? Perhaps something to do with dramatics (amateur or otherwise) in nearby Killarney. Whatever the case, have tried to summarise in the description. Thanks all!

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    Reconstructing Light

    • 01/Apr/2016 09:22:04

    Love it!!

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    Reconstructing Light

    • 01/Apr/2016 09:22:40

    They could be fending off the midges, which are wild in the right(wrong) weather conditions ;-)

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    oaktree_brian_1976

    • 02/Apr/2016 01:57:49

    I did some magic, you can see them sitting in the grass, the weeds cover the "criminal"'s pants. www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/25574925724/in/datepos... Only thing I can figure is they are actors in an early movie?

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    Karin Joy Passmore

    • 08/Apr/2016 02:00:52

    You can run, you can hide, but we WILL find you out!! crime doesn't pay.....

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    Gregory PC

    • 14/Apr/2016 09:02:49

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] Quick question. When you find out the location of a photo, do you not update the catalogue.nli.ie/ reference as well?

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 15/Apr/2016 10:35:52

    Greg, not at the moment.