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Where: Northern Ireland, Belfast, United Kingdom

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This fine old building looks neglected and abandoned all those years ago, is it even there now?

And the short answer is: yes - it's Assembly's College (now part of Queens University Belfast)

The longer answer, with particular thanks to O Mac, and additional contributions from Niall McAuley and BeachcomberAustralia is that this image may have been taken relatively early in the 1860-1883 catalogue range. Possibly as part of a series which captured a number of buildings by Charles Lanyon around Belfast. Some of which we've visited recently. Some solid arguments for date and impetus behind the likely commission in the comments below...


Photographers: Frederick Holland Mares, James Simonton

Contributor: John Fortune Lawrence

Collection: Stereo Pairs Photograph Collection

Date: Circa 1860 - 1883 (and possibly in the first decade of the range)

NLI Ref: STP_0438

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    sharon.corbet

    • 29/Mar/2016 07:50:56

    There's a second picture of the same building showing what looks like a red-brick terrace in front.

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    Swordscookie

    • 29/Mar/2016 08:30:43

    When I saw this first I thought "Ducketts Grove" but the terrace in Sharons would eliminate that! Fairly institutional and bleak without any shrubbery or landscaping!

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    Niall McAuley

    • 29/Mar/2016 09:00:40

    Would this be Palladian?

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    O Mac

    • 29/Mar/2016 09:48:28

    It's the Union Theological College Belfast Streetview inc. red Transit van. Wiki

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    Niall McAuley

    • 29/Mar/2016 09:58:42

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Well done! From the DIA: Name: LANYON, CHARLES (SIR) Building: CO. ANTRIM, BELFAST, COLLEGE PARK, PRESBYTERIAN COLLEGE Date: 1852-53 Nature: New building in Palladian style. Engaged Roman Doric columns. Scrabo freestone. Foundations being prepared April 1852; opened 1855. Expected cost about £6,000. Builder: John Corry. (Used as Parliament House for 3 years from 1921.)

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    O Mac

    • 29/Mar/2016 10:02:44

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Lanyon.... same architect designed Crumlin Road Courthouse and Gaol/Jail

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    Niall McAuley

    • 29/Mar/2016 10:03:35

    The houses in the terrace in [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]]'s other image are University Square, dating from the same time, 1848-53 per the DIA

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    Niall McAuley

    • 29/Mar/2016 10:06:55

    The DIA also lists a South wing in 1868, and a North in 1878, but I don't think they would be visible even if present here.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 29/Mar/2016 10:10:57

    Hmm, could be wrong. This clearer streetview from April 2010 is from a similar spot as the stereo pair, and I can see the roof on the right, which is the roof of the South wing, I think. Suggests this image is from before 1869.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 29/Mar/2016 10:22:14

    The OSNI site at maps.ehsni.gov.uk/SixInchSeries/ allows you to see (but not link to) historical maps, and the Six Inch 3rd Edition County Series shows this set up - one side of University Square is up, the College is up (but no wings) and the road which now runs across in front of the College gates, College Park East, is not there yet.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 29/Mar/2016 10:59:26

    Who has pinched the chimneys ?

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    Niall McAuley

    • 29/Mar/2016 11:21:44

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia I imagine they were removed during the addition of the North and South wings...

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 29/Mar/2016 11:51:55

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] No, not then! North wing - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000338157 South wing - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000335925 And they were still there in 1991 for the Lawrence photographic project - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000342764 :-)

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    O Mac

    • 29/Mar/2016 13:27:22

    I know we're loath to trust consecutive images for dating purposes but it might be of interest to note that STP_0433 through to STP_0445 were all taken in Belfast and are all of buildings designed by Charles Lanyon built before 1860-----as if the photographs had been commissioned? If they were taken at the same time then a clue to a date might be in STP_0443 which is of the former Northern Bank, Victoria Street. On a hoarding there is a Theatre Royal poster with a show date for Sept 10th 1861. Re: above picture. The lack of a finished entrance, gates and railings along with the young planting would suggest that the photograph was taken not too long after the buildings construction.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 29/Mar/2016 15:07:41

    Sept 1861 is consistent - must be after 1860 (all stps) and before 1869 (South wing).

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 29/Mar/2016 20:45:09

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]]'s commission idea is very plausible ... "... From the 1860s onwards Lanyon was prominent in the municipal and public life of Belfast and Co. Antrim. He was a member of Belfast town council and Mayor in 1862. ... " From - www.dia.ie/architects/view/3094/LANYON-charles%28sir%29 Judging by this photo and the courthouse of a few days ago, Lanyon built some very fine buildings.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 29/Mar/2016 23:50:49

    Brilliant. Compelling arguments there indeed. Have tried to summarise in the description and have updated the map and tags. (Including a tag to reflect that - a fact new to me - the building housed the Parliament of Northern Ireland in the formative years of the legislature....)

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    le cabri

    • 30/Mar/2016 12:31:22

    Caught my eye even in thumbnail

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    S H Ξ H A N

    • 30/Mar/2016 20:17:51

    lovely image

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    K.Marinović - Artist

    • 30/Mar/2016 20:46:40

    Congrats!

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