Ballaghbema Pass, Glencar, Co. Kerry

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While possibly not overly relevant for the day that's in it - International Women's Day - today's image takes us from the hallowed halls of the Royal Belfast Academical Institution to the rocky narrow road of the Ballaghbema Pass in Glencar, County Kerry.

Close to Killarney and Dunloe, and more commonly known as the Ballaghbeama Gap today, this is still a popular tourist driving and cycling route. With thanks to the eagle eyes of today's contributors, we know that the car we see was attached to the nearby Glencar Hotel, with a suggestion that the hotel driver pictured was either James Moriarty or (as he'd likely still have been young at the time), a hotel driver predecessor of his....


Photographer: Robert French

Collection: Lawrence Photograph Collection

Date: Between 1865 - 1914

NLI Ref: L_ROY_04513

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    Niall McAuley

    • 08/Mar/2016 09:18:24

    Somewhere near here in Streetview?

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 08/Mar/2016 09:45:04

    "GLENCAR HOTEL" on the back of the side-car. Thanks megazoom.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 08/Mar/2016 09:54:22

    Their facebook page says they opened in 1790, no help.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 08/Mar/2016 09:58:36

    Glencar Hotel on the 25" map at GeoHive.

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    O Mac

    • 08/Mar/2016 10:28:04

    That could be James Moriarty, occupation "Driver" living in the Glencar Hotel in 1901. Still there 1911. He appears a few times in the collection. catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000322543

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    Niall McAuley

    • 08/Mar/2016 10:36:39

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] James was 18 in 1901 - if this is him it must be towards the end of that date range, I think, as he looks older. Or it could be before 1901, and a different Driver...

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    sharon.corbet

    • 08/Mar/2016 12:05:34

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Well, James Moriarty was a criminal mastermind, after all, so perhaps he's just in disguise ;-)

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    patrick.vickers1

    • 08/Mar/2016 12:08:41

    Is the name on the photograph politically incorrect ?

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 08/Mar/2016 20:17:53

    Thanks https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley for the suggested location - have updated the map accordingly to that general area. (Although I wish there was an option to set a "margin of error" or vagueness factor - as any map pin tends to be very definite). Well done https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia for the eagle-eyed megazoom - have updated the tags to reflect. While we'd love to take https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]'s subject suggestion as fact, without corroboration, we'll just have to reflect it as a rough possibility for now :)

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    guliolopez

    • 08/Mar/2016 20:24:10

    These lads are at it without the aid of the horse. We also had a car taking this hill (or the other side of it), a few years back: www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/6992065114/

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    Reconstructing Light

    • 08/Mar/2016 21:49:08

    Love it!

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    O Mac

    • 08/Mar/2016 22:54:07

    The side-car was exactly here.... 51°56'28.2"N 9°48'59.3"W The horse? well, a little bit further east.

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    B-59

    • 09/Mar/2016 11:38:11

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] I agree - these are the rocks in the foreground: goo.gl/maps/CHvLVCy5sUL2

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 09/Mar/2016 12:31:48

    Are those things properly called "side-cars" or jaunting cars? The Great God of Google doesn't seem to know.

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    O Mac

    • 09/Mar/2016 22:28:34

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] Google knows everything : ) . The proper name would be Jaunting or Outside Car or side-car for short.. There were also Inside Cars and Tub Traps . The Trap in the picture is an Outside Car.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 10/Mar/2016 08:02:32

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Thank you. Outside car explains it, as most google results for side-car refers to motorbike contraptions like the Two Fat Ladies had.

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    Bwana_Samaki

    • 14/Mar/2016 20:01:04

    Are those somebody's clothes folded on the rock just above the hyphen between Balla and Be? The driver is looking right at it, whatever it is

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 15/Mar/2016 18:41:28

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Derek, it is hard to say, it could be a cap?