Aasleagh, Assleagh, Co. Galway

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For Trusty Thursday we have an architectural mish mash of a house near the beautiful Aasleagh Falls.

With thanks in particular today to contributions from B-59, sharon.corbet, DannyM8 , & O Mac, we have confirmation of the subject (Aasleagh Lodge), it's location (close to Leenane on the Galway/Mayo border), and possibly refined date range (likely 1906 +/- 5 years or so). Quite interesting is that we learned that this image would have been a candidate for our "no longer standing" album - had it not been for restoration works undertaken after the house was burned in the 1920s...


Photographer: Robert French

Collection: The Lawrence Photograph Collection

Date: c. 1865-1914 (though possibly c.1906-1911)

NLI Ref: L_CAB_04399

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    B-59

    • 03/Mar/2016 08:20:06

    Seems to be this house: www.aasleaghlodge.ie/ Streetview: goo.gl/maps/fVz8URTLMPD2

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    sharon.corbet

    • 03/Mar/2016 08:42:49

    The original was burnt down in 1923 and was rebuilt.

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    B-59

    • 03/Mar/2016 08:48:37

    According to www.wikiwand.com/en/Destruction_of_Irish_country_houses_%... it was destroyed in 1923 during the Troubles and rebuilt.

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    B-59

    • 03/Mar/2016 08:54:03

    "The house dates back to the 18th century. It was badly damaged by fire in 1923, but has since been renovated and is now run by staff of the State's Western Regional Fisheries Board." www.galway.net/galwayguide/showyp.shtml?id=4071 (But the house is apparently in County Mayo, not Galway)

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    DannyM8

    • 03/Mar/2016 09:06:00

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I think this stopped in the last year or two the WFB put it out to tender and it is now run by the Delphi Resort? I remember that the house was owned by Lord Brabourne and he or some of his family were killed along with Lord Mountbatten by the Provisional IRA. I believe the State bought the Lodge and the rights to the fishery from the Brabourn family as they could not bring themselves to return to the house after that terrible time.

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    DannyM8

    • 03/Mar/2016 09:12:02

    Lord Brabourne himself survived the bomb it was devastating on his family - he was married to a daughter of Mountbatten "In the August 1979 explosion off Mullaghmore, Lord Brabourne's 14-years old son, Nicholas; his mother, the Dowager Lady Brabourne, as well as his father-in-law, Lord Mountbatten, were killed when the IRA bomb blew apart Lord Mountbatten's boat, The Shadow V. Another of Lord Brabourne's sons, Timothy, a twin of Nicholas, survived, as did Lord Brabourne's wife, Lady Patricia Mountbatten, daughter of Lord Mountbatten. A 15-years old boy, Paul Maxwell, who was also on the boat, died in the explosion. Braebourne Died in 2005 - from Irish Independent

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    O Mac

    • 03/Mar/2016 09:38:07

    The photograph must have been taken after 1901 as we don't see a house with so many windows 'til 1911 when it would appear the house was being used as a Protestant Episcopalian boarding school run by a Jeanie Davis. House and Building Return 1911

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    sharon.corbet

    • 03/Mar/2016 09:46:18

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] There were possible "alts." in 1906 according to the DIA (assuming that Aasleagh Lodge and Aasleagh Lodge are the same thing).

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    DannyM8

    • 03/Mar/2016 09:50:11

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/25097980629/in/dateposted/ Leasehold of Aasleagh to be sold - IT Jan 1st 1873 Assleagh was an Hotel in 1886.

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    O Mac

    • 03/Mar/2016 09:53:26

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I'd say those "alts." had to have been major for KAYE-PARRY & ROSS to have been involved and I'd go for post 1906... Aasleagh Lodge and Aasleagh Lodge are the same thing :)

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    sharon.corbet

    • 03/Mar/2016 10:02:17

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Oops :-) Typing is hard. I meant Aasleagh Lodge and Aasleagh House... I think that "school" in 1911 was actually an Orphanage - mentioned here as part of the Irish Church Missions activities. Aasleagh Lodge may also be one of the vacant houses.

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    DannyM8

    • 03/Mar/2016 11:00:58

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/24836300094/in/dateposted/ It may not be the correct date but Mr Lawrence was at work in the area in September 1900.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 03/Mar/2016 11:32:50

    A tall tale ...

    ... Pleased with his visit to Dublin in 1902, King Edward and Queen Alexandra proposed to extend their tour so as to include the Western counties. All sorts of entertainments were suggested for the Royal visitors. At Aasleagh, in their enthusiasm, the inhabitants raised a mighty cheering for the King, but his title was unknown until one genius roared out, 'Three cheers for King Henry VI.' This cry was taken up all along the roads, and was the title given to his Majesty! The King and Queen visited the homes of cottagers, and everywhere were received with a simplicity which deeply touched them. Referring to the greeting of one villager, the King remarked that he was 'the finest courtier he had known.' A Mr. Peter Rafferty, owner of a quarry, decided to present the Royalties with some reminder. He gave the King a beautiful silver mounted inkstand, and a harp was intended for Queen Alexandra. But he discovered that Princess Victoria was also one of the party, and, being unable to decide as to whom he should present the harp, said, 'Begorra, there will be a howly row in the palace over this, and it is all my fault; so it is! Sure, I never knew the Princess was coming at all!' So Peter suggested that the Royal ladies should fight it out there and then for the ownership of the harp!
    From The Don Dorrigo Gazette and Guy Fawkes Advocate [!!] 27/06/1923 p.4 - trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/171780022

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    DannyM8

    • 03/Mar/2016 11:38:01

    Alfred Maudslay Lease from 1890 until 1919

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    DannyM8

    • 03/Mar/2016 11:51:00

    Thursday June 29th 1911 Maudslay Summer Residence Aasleagh - Coronation Day Celebrations. https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/25100260469/in/dateposted/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] It seems that Maudslay leased the house from 1890 and he was there in 1911 - which does not tie in with the Orphanage / Boarding school idea???

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    O Mac

    • 03/Mar/2016 12:16:43

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Yes, you're right. The school/orphanage was somewhere else. I think https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] is right too in that Aasleagh House/Lodge was unoccupied at both census times and is one of the buildings listed as such on both building returns. Pity there is no OSI 25" historic map to show us where the orphanage was.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 03/Mar/2016 12:19:16

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] There's an article about "Holy War in Aasleagh" which mentions: Readers are asked to send contributions for this project to Miss Aldridge at Aasleagh Lodge, Westport. She was the sister of David Plunket’s wife. An orphanage was built later which confirms that the orphanage was a separate building.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 03/Mar/2016 12:31:36

    Alfred Maudslay was pretty interesting. He was a photographer too.

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    Swordscookie

    • 03/Mar/2016 12:36:03

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Some shower of republicans you lot are! Paying homage to royals, lords, ladies and reverends that are not in evidence while there before you, in full living black and white is a real live gardener and you pay no attention to him! Now, show how good you really are and find his name for me:-)

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    Niall McAuley

    • 03/Mar/2016 12:37:48

    If the house "dates back to the 18th century" per the galway.net, why does it not appear on the 1839 6" OSI map? Perhaps they meant 1800s. I like the landed estates info better: The 19th century lodge was let to the Honourable David Plunket in the 1850s. It must have been built in the 1840s.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 03/Mar/2016 12:43:36

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/swordscookie] Frank Mullen would be one possibility. As would Michael Joyce...

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 03/Mar/2016 13:07:16

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/swordscookie] He reminds me of 'Michael' (John Mills, Oscar for Best Supporting Actor), from Ryan's Daughter. www.altfg.com/film/wp-content/uploads/images/john-mills-r...

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    O Mac

    • 03/Mar/2016 17:36:41

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] " Mr Lawrence" was at Aasleagh more than once. Here is another, taken at a later date, showing a trellis on front wall.

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    DannyM8

    • 03/Mar/2016 22:56:10

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] He did get around the country.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 04/Mar/2016 01:26:44

    Fantastic - thanks all. Sounds like, in a not too unlikely alternate history, this image would have been a candidate for our "no longer standing" album...

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    O Mac

    • 04/Mar/2016 08:22:41

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland ... maybe you should open an "only a bit of it left standing " album. The right hand, and older part, of the building was demolished in 1923.

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    philfluther

    • 14/Aug/2016 09:41:55

    Comments 2. Driveway? Seems to me to be a man: wearing a hat smoking a pipe scything. Cottage orne, "A rustic building of picturesque design" English Heritage.