Survey of Dublin, Co. Dublin

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An ancient map of a much smaller Dublin as photographed by Lawrence. The north side appears to have been the poor relation even back then.

With thanks to today's contributors, and following from a previous posting of the original image on our other Flickr stream we know that while Lawrence photographed this map in the late 19th or early 20th century, it was drawn by James Malton in the 1780s or 90s, and based on an earlier survey by John Speed in 1610.

Malton (1761–1803) is perhaps best known for his "Views of Dublin", but what Lawrence captured here was a folio Malton created that was included in the book "History of the City of Dublin: From the Earliest Accounts to the Present Time"....


Photographer: Robert French

Collection: Lawrence Photograph Collection

Date: between ca. 1865-1914

NLI Ref: L_CAB_03374

You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at catalogue.nli.ie

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Owner: National Library of Ireland on The Commons
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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 10/Mar/2016 07:52:48

    It is with great pleasure I add the following photo to our 50,000+ Views album, regular contributors will know that the title “Back to work” refers to the time a little over a year ago when we started to post to this stream again. https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/16038214197/in/album-72157651136879037/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/sets/72157651136879037

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    DannyM8

    • 10/Mar/2016 08:43:50

    It is surprising so many streets still hold the same name.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 10/Mar/2016 08:53:14

    There is another map of Dublin, also dated 1610 (why - what was going on then?) available via wikipedia. Interesting to spot the differences - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dublin_in_1610_-_reprint_of_18... From en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Dublin

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 10/Mar/2016 09:03:19

    "London. Published by James Malton for his History of Dublin 1792" at bottom centre. The plot thickeneth ...

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    sharon.corbet

    • 10/Mar/2016 09:10:16

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Iwas going to suggest it was something like that - a later drawn map showing Dublin as it was in 1610 rather than a map from 1610.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 10/Mar/2016 09:15:39

    Here it is in a History of Dublin.

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    B-59

    • 10/Mar/2016 09:34:48

    S. also www.flickr.com/photos/yournlireland/8680476422/ James Malton (1761–1803), Irish engraver and watercolourist en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Malton

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    Niall McAuley

    • 10/Mar/2016 09:36:03

    Dublin castle, the walled city of Dublin, both the Cathedrals and even the "black pool" from which it got its name (maybe!) are all on the South side.

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    O Mac

    • 10/Mar/2016 10:02:15

    John Speed (1552 – 28 July 1629) has to have been the original cartographer. There are too many similarities to be otherwise. Speeds 1610 Map of Dublin en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Speed#/media/File:Dublin_in_16...

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    sharon.corbet

    • 10/Mar/2016 12:34:08

    In case any one else was wondering about "Carey's Hospital", it later became Chichester House and was replaced by the Houses of Parliament / Bank of Ireland Building.

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    Carol Maddock

    • 10/Mar/2016 13:20:56

    Here's the Mega Zoomable (patent still pending) of the map in the catalogue at Library Towers, and it appeared on our "other" Flickr a few years back...

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    John W Morton

    • 10/Mar/2016 14:34:15

    "the poor relation"!?! - no need to put the Northside down, NLI - we are all fellow Dubliners and equal people of Ireland.

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    johnspragg2210

    • 10/Mar/2016 14:36:45

    love these old maps!

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    guliolopez

    • 10/Mar/2016 20:16:50

    Woohoo! Some of my favorites get a mention today - From John Speed to Wally McGrath :) One of the interesting things about this map (which is definitely by Malton and based on Speed's earlier work) is what's happening around Wood Quay and Winetavern Street. It's more obvious in the zoomable version, but there is a comparative "sparseness" of houses between Winetavern St, Fishamble St and Wood Quay. It's suggested that this sparseness in Speed's map is attributable to the HUGE gunpowder explosion which destroyed all the buildings around there just a decade or so before Speed's survey....

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 10/Mar/2016 20:43:16

    Great stuff - Thanks all! Location, description, etc all updated :)

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 10/Mar/2016 21:49:56

    The Need for Speed Limerick In Dublin a lost soul named Speed Of a map he saw desperate need. In 1610 He put paper to pen - And everyone followed his lead.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 10/Mar/2016 22:21:06

    I have just added the following photo to our 50,000+ Views Album. This is the 150th addition to the album, it picked up all the views in less than 48 hours, compliments of Flickr Explore. https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/25340935660 https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/sets/72157651136879037

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    Reconstructing Light

    • 10/Mar/2016 22:32:40

    Not much has changed......much ;-)