Estate and property outside Clonmel

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This idyllic rural scene taken from a great height is an unusual one from the Poole Collection. Describing it as an estate seems a bit grand as it looks more like a farm or small holding but where is it?

I expected that it would take a while to identify this location and as usual I am surprised at the ease at which the discoveries around here are made.

Rory_Sherlock tells us that the photo was taken from Graignagower looking across to Knockatrellane and links us to the OSI map which identifies the building as a Smithy. Niall McAuley then links us to the streetview which confirms that we are talking about the correct location.

Niall McAuley further informs us that the Parish is Knockatrellane, and in 1911, there was exactly one blacksmith in the parish: John Farrell, John and Johanna were there in 1901 as well. I think it is a fair bet that the person at the door is either John or Johanna.

I am waiting on the name of the Dog.

Excellent work today, well done all.

Photographer: A. H. Poole

Collection: Poole Photographic Studio, Waterford

Date: ca. 17 January 1906

NLI Ref: POOLEWP 0516a

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    AndyBrii

    • 10/Feb/2016 09:17:17

    A similar photo (nli) shows the horse and cart (and driver) move just a little to the right, and an animal or large bird move in the stream : catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000590434

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    DannyM8

    • 10/Feb/2016 09:22:57

    Spot the dog

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    Niall McAuley

    • 10/Feb/2016 09:30:55

    The title could make sense if the land shown is part of an estate...

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 10/Feb/2016 09:56:47

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] You can tell his name from there??????

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    AndyBrii

    • 10/Feb/2016 10:09:17

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland OK - let's say Toby or Molly!

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    Swordscookie

    • 10/Feb/2016 10:15:25

    I thought that the horse and cart were for going to the creamery but that is a sidecar with cushions/padding on the seating. While they were not exclusively used commercially as a rule they were jarveys for hire! Would that indicate that the shot was taken near somewhere scenic? As I was writing this I was thinking "The Vee" but that would be a very long ride in a sidecar!!!

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    Rory_Sherlock

    • 10/Feb/2016 11:14:07

    I think that's taken in the townland of Knockatrellane just to the south of Ballymacarbry, Co Waterford maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V2,619658,611903,11,9 Well, technically it appears to be taken from Graignagower looking across to Knockatrellane and the OS 25" map suggests the building was a smithy (though I presume one part was a house too).

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    derangedlemur

    • 10/Feb/2016 11:22:00

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] There's enough soot around the end door and window to make that a plausible theory.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 10/Feb/2016 11:22:27

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Looks good. The house has been replaced, but in this Streetview there is still a stable to the left, and a little bridge to access the property.

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    Rory_Sherlock

    • 10/Feb/2016 11:28:07

    The estate in question is probably that of the Earl of Stradbroke landedestates.nuigalway.ie/LandedEstates/jsp/estate-show....

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    Niall McAuley

    • 10/Feb/2016 11:30:23

    We are not a million miles from Hanora's Cottage, which I heartily recommend to all Flickroonies.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 10/Feb/2016 11:40:59

    Parish is Knockatrellane, and in 1911, there was exactly one blacksmith in the parish: John Farrell. His dog is not named in the census. John and Johanna were there in 1901 as well. Their house had 3 windows to the front (the glazed ones to the right in this photo, I'm guessing), and 3 rooms according to the House and Building return

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    Rory_Sherlock

    • 10/Feb/2016 11:48:19

    He's listed there in 1901 too, and while there are four houses in the townland of Knockatrellane, his is the only one listed in the 1901 census or the 1911 census as having a slated roof, the other three being thatched... probably par for the course for a blacksmith...

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    Niall McAuley

    • 10/Feb/2016 12:03:19

    Presumably the gentleman shown has brought his car to get the oil changed horse's shoes looked at. Searching the whole DED of Graignagower for "car", I see only William Donald. Since the boarding house he's in also has a telegraphist and post man, and the lady of the house is Post master, he must be down the road in Ballymacarbry village where the Post office was, and in fact, still is, even the 100 year old Telegraph Office and Money Order Office signs are still there! Since Donald is listed as a servant, I assume the car itself belongs to the shopkeeper Noonan, and he may just be delivering the Farrell's shopping...

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    DannyM8

    • 10/Feb/2016 14:12:30

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley Well spotted, the smaller gate pillars to the left of the main gate in the streetview can clearly be seen in the original photograph.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 10/Feb/2016 14:41:51

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] All Rory's doing, I had no clue!!

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    mickyman13

    • 10/Feb/2016 23:39:24

    I could not spot Spot the dog but I found some ducks anyone know the their names!

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    AndyBrii

    • 11/Feb/2016 03:21:01

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/mickhuett] 'Spot' the dog (and what else he is called), does not appear in this photo, but in the accompanying photo - just near the door (open the photo to 100%) - : catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000590434

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 13/Feb/2016 02:46:29

    I like how the old 25" map (link above) shows a "Spring" to the south/left of the house - where that soggy patch and millstone are; and a "Copper Mine (Disused)" to the north/right - where the ground is disturbed. The detail in those 25" maps is extraordinary. Don't know what the blacksmith's dog is called, but if he left the gate open he'd make a bolt for it.