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Where: Waterford, Ireland

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The title on this shot is ""Upton", Newtown, smoking room :
commissioned by Captain Greathead" which almost sounds like the name of a James Bond movie character! The similarity with the drawing room in a recent Clonbrock image is striking, especially the fussy arrangement and profusion of pictures on the walls.

There seems to be some agreement that this photo was taken on Sunday 24th April 1898. Well done to all who spotted this.

It seems that the house has been demolished to improve the facilities at De La Salle College.

Niall McAuley identifies Harvey Greathed as the owner of the house at the time.

Photographer: A. H. Poole

Collection: Poole Photographic Studio, Waterford

Date: ca. April 1898

NLI Ref: POOLEWP 0917

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    derangedlemur

    • 15/Feb/2016 08:31:22

    Carlow, maybe? maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V2,676883,662135,8,9

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    derangedlemur

    • 15/Feb/2016 08:32:20

    Though Poole tends to be Waterford, and there is also a Newtown in Waterford, if not obviously an Upton.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 15/Feb/2016 08:44:49

    Upton, Newtown, Waterford came up before as where Peter O'Connor was living: https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/6051865991

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    Niall McAuley

    • 15/Feb/2016 09:05:20

    De La Salle College, Waterford: In 1958 Upton House was purchased to accommodate extra boarders.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 15/Feb/2016 09:15:52

    Searching google maps for Upton Newtown Waterford points to Newtown Junior School, but I am not sure why yet.

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    philipgmayer

    • 15/Feb/2016 09:39:49

    She was probably glad to be sacked. Dusting all those pictures, let alone the other stuff, must have been a full-time job.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 15/Feb/2016 09:40:09

    Hello Hervey Greathed! In the census of 5 April 1891 in The Barracks, Thorpe, Norfolk, England, he was listed as a Lieutenant with the 8th Hussars. He married Mary Alice Sharp Rogerson in 1897 in Weardale, Durham, England. His wife Mary died on 8 April 1898 in Upton House, Waterford, County Waterford, Ireland, Her death notice appeared in The Newcastle Weekly Courant of Saturday 16 April 1898. Hervey received probate on his wife Mary's will on 14 July 1898 in London. He married Violet Constance Bertha Gilliat, daughter of John Saunders Gilliat, on 20 October 1903 in Christ Church, Chorleywood, London, England, after a licence had been issued. The ceremony was witnessed by Alice Greathed, John S Gilliat and Cecilia V Giliat. Hervey died on 25 September 1906 in Walton, Wool, Wellesbourne, Warwickshire, England, aged 39

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    Niall McAuley

    • 15/Feb/2016 09:44:49

    So, I'd say definitely before 1906, probably before 1903. Were the 8th Hussars ever stationed in Waterford?

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    Niall McAuley

    • 15/Feb/2016 10:04:56

    Possible hits for Greathed in the Irish Newspaper Archive, 1 and 16 of April 1898.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 15/Feb/2016 10:08:59

    The Irish Times - Page 5 Friday 15 April 1898 may be a hit, seems to be a race for officers of the 8th. Would Hervey be mentioned in this context just a week after his wife's death?

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    Niall McAuley

    • 15/Feb/2016 10:29:39

    I wonder if Upton was this house on the 25" at GeoHive, since demolished. Bay window at the back may match the shots of the Drawing room in the archive.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 15/Feb/2016 12:04:50

    Photo of Captain Hervey Greathed's memorial in All Saints Church, Hampreston, Dorset, England - www.warmemorialsonline.org.uk/node/70373

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 15/Feb/2016 12:23:00

    Ooo! - there is a calendar on the desk - see megazoom. "19th April Tuesday" ?? That happened in 1898, 1892, 1887 ...

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 15/Feb/2016 12:31:52

    Was Mr Poole commissioned to photograph the house interior soon after the wife Mary died ? Seems like a spooky sort of victorian thing to do.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 15/Feb/2016 12:32:00

    www.thepeerage.com has similar info on Mary: She married Hervey Greathed, son of Maj.-Gen. William Wilberforce Harris Greathed and Alice Clive, on 2 September 1897 at Wolsingham, County Durham, England. She died on 8 April 1898 at Upton House, Waterford, County Waterford, Ireland.

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    Melinda Young Stuart

    • 15/Feb/2016 12:33:42

    Bear rug, and from what breed are the horns on the wall?

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    Niall McAuley

    • 15/Feb/2016 12:41:43

    His sister Alice in the 1911 census

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    Niall McAuley

    • 15/Feb/2016 12:49:15

    There is a calendar on top of the writing desk open at April. The 24th is a Sunday, as in 1898 and 1904. By 1904, Hervey was remarried and far away. I think this is April 1898, the very month his wife died.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 15/Feb/2016 13:25:01

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia According to the memorial, Greathed served in India and at home 1887-1898, and then again in the Boer war 1900-1902. Perhaps he retired when his wife died, and rejoined for the war?

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    Carol Maddock

    • 15/Feb/2016 13:36:56

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] Deffo agreed on April 1898 on the calendar. The two hunting prints are Tipperary Boys and Tipperary Melody by Francis Calcraft Turner.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 15/Feb/2016 14:02:52

    From the Gazette: 8th Hussars, Captain Hervey Greathed, about to be appointed to the Militia, retires on retired pay under Article 509, Royal Warrant 18th July 1898. Dated 2nd November 1898.

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    ofarrl

    • 15/Feb/2016 17:06:30

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley/] The location you gave on the OSI map is correct I believe. Olympian Peter O'Connor lived there from around the end of 1913 up until his death in 1957. There is a nice photo of the house on page 158 of Mark Quinn's book The King of Spring. The house is described as having six large bedrooms, a garden with fruit and vegetables and a stables with loft suitable for pigeons. O'Connor bought the house from a Colonel Robert S. Watson. I'm pretty certain the house was still standing in the late 1960's and very early 70's when I was going to De La Salle college across the street. It looks like De La Salle knocked the house for better access to their playing fields and classrooms on that side of the road. O'Connor family of Upton, Waterford in the catalogue catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000592935

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    silverio10

    • 15/Feb/2016 20:32:06

    Buena serie de fotos antiguas .

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    Photoamble.

    • 15/Feb/2016 20:47:12

    I like this photo . I once owned a desk like this,solid mahogany barrell slope .

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 15/Feb/2016 21:18:39

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] This GoogleBook snippet mentions "...Captain Greathed (who had re-joined the regiment from the Militia)... left the Curragh for Aldershot..." in late January 1900. books.google.com.au/books?id=OXm-BAAAQBAJ&pg=PA2&... April 1898 is looking good. Now there must be a clock in amongst all that clutter ...

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 15/Feb/2016 21:20:53

    ... and there is! On the mantlepiece - it is 13.30 !!

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    Niall McAuley

    • 16/Feb/2016 09:27:48

    I thought the mantel photo on our left looked like Hervey's brother, Robert Napier Greathed, but he was in the Royal Horse Artillery, and the uniform is wrong. In fact, that looks like the dress uniform of the 8th Hussars, suggesting that it is Hervey himself. But then who is the Hussar at right holding the busby?

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    Niall McAuley

    • 16/Feb/2016 09:40:46

    Hervey and Roberts older brother Edward was a broker and accountant, not a military man. I guess that is him dressed for horse riding. There is another military gent, perhaps an older photo from the 'tache? The two ladies could be Mary and Alice, Hervey's sisters?

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    Ali Gardener

    • 16/Feb/2016 18:30:02

    The other way how to hang the picture "on the wall"

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    Oretani Wildlife (Mike Grimes)

    • 17/Feb/2016 00:03:18

    The walls look like a Cat's Cradle!