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To end the week we have a Lawrence Cabinet sized image of a Fair Day in Bantry, Co. Cork!. I can see creels and carts, horses and donkeys, men and women, bowlers and flatcaps but it will take some searching to find a child or a dog?

Photographer: Robert French

Collection: Lawrence Photograph Collection

Date: Catalogue range c.1865-1914. Perhaps c.1890s-1900s

NLI Ref: L_CAB_08888

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    O Mac

    • 05/Oct/2017 08:15:58

    There's a dog lying under a cart. I see a roulette wheel and a huddle....probably a three card trickster.

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    Foxglove

    • 05/Oct/2017 08:19:31

    o mac you were seconds before me for the dog not a barefoot in sight but there could be a "teenager" leaning against a building to the right😊

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    DannyM8

    • 05/Oct/2017 08:28:51

    About time we had a Dog

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 05/Oct/2017 09:38:15

    The Funeral Establishment is next to the Carpenter's - convenient! N. M.(?) O'Shea and J. H. Sweeny Ed - corrected via catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000318373

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 05/Oct/2017 09:51:47

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/ "To end the week ..." - Is this week ending on Thursday?

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    John A. Coffey

    • 05/Oct/2017 09:53:44

    Fair day on Friday.... Wheelright on duty .......... Uniform ( behind fair caption).

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    Niall McAuley

    • 05/Oct/2017 09:56:41

    The church is from 1815, the school from 1853, row of shops, early 1800s - no help.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 05/Oct/2017 10:02:09

    There was one Bantry station from 1881, and a different one from 1892. I see railway furniture in the middle distance...

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 05/Oct/2017 10:04:19

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/79549245@N06] This must be a first - the Funeral Establishment building has two signs for "SPRATT'S Patent Dog Biscuits" and "SPRATT'S Patent Puppy Cakes". See megazoom at catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000318373 Ed. history of Spratt's - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spratt%27s

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 05/Oct/2017 10:06:50

    The missing 'old' buildings (see notes) might provide an earlier than date ...

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    Niall McAuley

    • 05/Oct/2017 10:17:57

    So, from this Irish Railways .pdf we learn there were three stations: Bantry, Union Hill* 04.07.1881 22.10.1892 22.10.1892 22.10.1892 Bantry Town 22.10.1892 01.04.1961 01.04.1961 01.04.1961 Bantry Pier* 01.01.1909 ??.??.1942 15.04.1946 01.03.1950 The OSI 25" shows the closed railway alignment behind the union workhouse. I suspect Ardnageena House is the 1881-1892 station. The railway we see here is certainly after 1892.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 05/Oct/2017 10:21:50

    From wikipedia: The Bantry Extension Railway (from Drimoleague) opened for traffic 1 July 1881, 11 miles (18 km). In order to give the railway access to a deep water port, a further extension was opened which was opened in 1892 (and a pier built in 1909, which was abandoned in 1946)

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    derangedlemur

    • 05/Oct/2017 10:24:58

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Not sure what building you think is missing. Neither Streetview nor the map show anything there, and the picture shows the railway embankment, which is what I'd expect.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 05/Oct/2017 10:44:39

    I do not see H.M. O'Shea, Funeral Establishment, in either the 1901 or 1911 census. Possible that my search term/spelling does not match...

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    Niall McAuley

    • 05/Oct/2017 10:46:55

    Here is John Sweeny, Carpenter in 1911, in Market Street (some distance from here).

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    Niall McAuley

    • 05/Oct/2017 10:50:13

    In 1901, he is at a Marino Street, and is McSweeny.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 05/Oct/2017 10:52:41

    Also on Marino street, John O Shea, Coach Driver, in 1901.

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 05/Oct/2017 10:59:41

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/8468254@N02/] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] The two missing 'old' buildings - www.google.ie/maps/@51.6808077,-9.4537632,3a,75y,35.48h,8... and www.google.ie/maps/@51.680084,-9.4524533,3a,75y,79.44h,88... I have no idea what they are, otherwise I'd look them up myself !

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    Niall McAuley

    • 05/Oct/2017 11:28:45

    John O'Shea moved to Main Street by 1911.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 05/Oct/2017 11:33:13

    So I am thinking 1892-1911.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 05/Oct/2017 11:54:36

    Aww, this nearby shot has a choo choo train!

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    Niall McAuley

    • 05/Oct/2017 12:09:21

    Reverse view

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    derangedlemur

    • 05/Oct/2017 12:21:59

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia I wouldn't have had either of those as being genuinely old. The one with the elliptically arched windows looks like a modern facade on a 20th C building. The auctioneer looks '90s or 2000s; there seems to have been something there in 1995 in the overhead view.

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    derangedlemur

    • 05/Oct/2017 12:24:39

    Here's one of them: www.property.ie/commercial-property/Wolfe-Tone-Square-Ban...

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    Niall McAuley

    • 05/Oct/2017 12:45:34

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/8468254@N02 The Stella Cinema, apparently, built in 1920.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 05/Oct/2017 12:47:18

    From a comment at cinematreasures.org/theaters/52035: The 1940 Kine Year Book (KYB) lists the proprietor as W. McSweeney

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 05/Oct/2017 13:27:57

    A 1920 cinema ! Sorry that does not help with the date. And the 'auctioneer' was a single storey laundrette in 1990 - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000348355 Mr French went all over Bantry that Fair Day. Reverse view from the other side of the station, including illegible(?) newspaper posters near the platform Gents - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000320925

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    Can Pac Swire

    • 05/Oct/2017 14:01:48

    Very busy place!

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    Niall McAuley

    • 05/Oct/2017 15:31:13

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia In the row of shops in that one I see something like Wissman. 1901 census says in Harbour View is Martin Wiseman. The Terminus Hotel is evidently Sullivan. But #5, the other side of Wiseman, a shop in the pic, is a retired RIC man, Mr. Boucher, and his wife is a housekeeper. Sullivan is still a hotelier in 1911, Wiseman is still there, but now Kate Boucher is a shopkeeper. So I am leaning towards 1901-1911.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 05/Oct/2017 15:48:34

    This is lovely, and the market looks ongoing in the background... same day? Here it is in the archive without the sepia tint. In megazoom, we see Sullivan's served Hot Luncheons, Wiseman is clear and the next shop is probably Boucher as expected. I also suspect...

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    Niall McAuley

    • 05/Oct/2017 16:07:43

    ...that the same ladies hats are flying by in this reverse view, increasing my confidence that these are all the same day.

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 05/Oct/2017 21:36:45

    I thought they were all the same day, until the church tower suddenly acquires a clock ! See these two at megazoom - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000320925 (without clock) catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000321872 (with clock - 13:44) *searches interweb for Bantry church clock date...*

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 05/Oct/2017 23:46:16

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia "Is this week ending on Thursday?". Wishful thinking from Morning Mary :)

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    Niall McAuley

    • 06/Oct/2017 05:11:42

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] Well spotted! From this parish history page: The first time the town clock on the church was rung was to herald in the 20th century".

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    Niall McAuley

    • 06/Oct/2017 05:15:36

    The church is not clear in this shot, but I think the almost identical one with the choo choo shows the clock, consistent with 1901-1911.

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 06/Oct/2017 06:52:27

    ♬I'm on my way to Bantry Fair Me heart is light, I haven't a care ... ...♬ youtu.be/DAir9TiOPbo

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    philfluther

    • 06/Oct/2017 08:36:30

    "decent church" Oliver Goldsmith.

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    abandoned railways

    • 06/Oct/2017 09:32:39

    The original railway terminus was above the town [Bantry Union hill]. A further extension was opened to Bantry town on 22.10.1892, and later the pier 01.01.1909. All this market area is reclaimed land. catalogue.nli.ie/Search/Results?lookfor=bantry&type=T..., bottom of page.

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    Dr. Ilia

    • 16/Oct/2017 08:00:05

    Amazing shot

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    myheadismyonlyhouse

    • 05/Dec/2019 14:38:27

    Found this by accident just now... catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000298395#page/11/mode/1up