Mr. Dunphy, Asst Master, workhouse, group.

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When: 01 January 1920

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A fine family group from the studio of Mr. Poole with a baby, a dog, a military man and fine lugs on display. Mr. Dunphy had a fine and healthy looking family and was justifiably proud of them! While the workhouse was a dreaded word in times past being the Assistant Master must have been a role of great responsibility and even respectability.

And the virtual Pullitzer for investigative efforts goes (indubitably) to Bernard Healy, who has provided a breadth of information on the principals pictured here. The primary subject, and commissioner of this Poole studio shot, was Michael (Mike) Dunphy. This is the man, perhaps surprisingly given the title afforded him in the catalogue, who we see in the uniform. After being promoted to "assistant master" at the Waterford workhouse at a very young age, he joined the British Army. Shortly afterwards he joined the Free State's new National Army, rising to the rank of Colonel and advising Michael Collins during the Civil War. Also probably pictured is Michael's father, John Dunphy, Justice of the Peace and Poor Law Guardian. And perhaps his mother and/or grandmother together with some siblings - John (who lived in London and worked for many years for John Walker Distillers), Edward EJ (who lived in the USA), Patrick (who perhaps stayed in Ballygorey) and maybe Joe (who worked in the Post Office and Guards). I can't begin to summarise the breadth of information provided by Bernard, so this is one where I'd recommend a read through the full thread :)


Photographer: A. H. Poole

Collection: Poole Photographic Studio, Waterford

Date: Catalogue range c.18 August 1920

NLI Ref: POOLEWP 2866

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 04/Oct/2017 08:14:30

    Dog ! Baby ! 18 August 1920 was a Wednesday ...

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    derangedlemur

    • 04/Oct/2017 08:40:35

    25 in 1911, so presumably either dog-man or dickybow-man.

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    CASSIDY PHOTOGRAPHY

    • 04/Oct/2017 08:41:07

    Now we know where/from whom Prince Charles and my father-in-law got their ears from!

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    derangedlemur

    • 04/Oct/2017 08:42:23

    And here's his gaf: maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V2,661240,611272,11,9

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    Niall McAuley

    • 04/Oct/2017 08:52:00

    In that 1911 census, I see: Dunphy Michael John's Hill Waterford No. 4 Urban (part of) Waterford 25 M Co Kilkenny Asst Master of Workhouse Roman Catholic Read and write Single Dunphy Mary B John's Hill Waterford No. 4 Urban (part of) Waterford 30 F Co Kilkenny Portress of Workhouse Roman Catholic Read and write Portress

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    John A. Coffey

    • 04/Oct/2017 09:58:46

    Bowtie looks like Dáithí Ó Sé (afternoon tv presenter).

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    sam2cents

    • 04/Oct/2017 11:24:53

    It's amazing, and quite shocking, that the workhouse continued so far into the 20th century. Of course, the Magdalen laundries were basically the same concept. I really like the parlour palms.

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    sam2cents

    • 04/Oct/2017 11:25:52

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] He does too!

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    clear eggnog

    • 04/Oct/2017 12:22:35

    Isn't that Jeremy Corbyn trying to hide his face on the left?

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    Bernard Healy

    • 04/Oct/2017 13:17:02

    I think our military gentleman might be Michael Dunphy. Munster Express 07/08/1925 states that Colonel Michael Dunphy of HQ Staff, National Army was on holidays in Tramore. He was an officer in WWI & afterwards Assistant Master of Waterford Workhouse. He is a native of Ballygorey.

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    Bernard Healy

    • 04/Oct/2017 13:40:12

    And here is a facebook post with a photo of Colonel Dunphy, along with Michael Collins and some other senior army colleagues. "Ordinary men of Kilkenny are the most numerous as you would expect. Michael Dunphy, a local government employee, who was born in Mooncoin in 1886, served in the Royal Dublin Fusiliers, ending up with the rank of captain. He returned home and in 1922 joined the Free State army and was military adviser to the Chief of Staff, General Michael Collins: he was present at the taking over of the Beggars Bush Barracks from the Crown Forces and was subsequently appointed to the Curragh command. He was associated during his career with both General Mulcahy and General Eoin O’ Duffy." Based on that photo, I think he looks most like the man in military uniform in our photo. Here is a webpage with a few more scraps of information about him, including mention of his WWI service and his parents. Family History Michael Dunphy’s father’s name was Peter Dunphy and his profession was a labourer. His mother’s name was Anna Dunphy. Anna’s maiden surname was Heoban. Michael Dunphy had a wife and two children. Recorded insistence from his duty as a Captain in World War I It is recorded in “It’s a long way to Salonika”: Irish soldiers in the Balkans in World War I' how “One officer, Captain Michael Dunphy of the Royal Dublin Fusiliers, wrote constantly throughout the spring of 1917 to the War Office from his home in Mooncoin, Co. Kilkenny, asking to be sent back to his regiment, having been sent home in the first place with two bouts of malaria.” Death For health reasons he retired on pension from the Army in 1928. He worked with business in London. Captain Michael Dunphy died in London. That page also has a link that I can't access suggesting an obituary in the Irish Times of 17/06/1947.

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    Dún Laoghaire Micheál

    • 04/Oct/2017 14:01:02

    Standing up to ageism in Waterford 1905 . . . . Untitled-1_16.psd

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    Bernard Healy

    • 04/Oct/2017 14:48:37

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ Having looked at Irish Times 17/06/1947, his obituary states that his father was the late Mr John Dunphy JP Mooncoin. This would seem a more plausible background for a young man who was able to advance so quickly in his profession & achieve officer's rank in the RDF.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 04/Oct/2017 15:41:00

    Here in Mooncoin in the 1901 census are Peter and (Joh) Anna Dunphy.

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    Bernard Healy

    • 04/Oct/2017 15:46:09

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ I'm pretty sure this is the wrong Dunphy family. Explanation to follow later.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 04/Oct/2017 15:53:11

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy Yes, I see that.

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    Bernard Healy

    • 04/Oct/2017 17:23:05

    Okay! I think I can make a stab at proposing a plausible identification which others may want to follow up on... I also think that I may have an idea of the _occasion_ of this photo. I think we can be pretty happy with our identification of the chap in uniform as being Michael Dunphy, Assistant Master of the Waterford Workhouse - appointed to that post c.1905, when only 19 years of age, served with the Royal Dublin Fusiliers in WWI, ending up as Captain. Later served in the Free State Army, becoming Colonel. The photo of him with Michael Collins, as well as several articles in the Munster Express make me happy with that identification. In his role as Assistant Master he appeared frequently in the pages of the Munster Express. Many of the reports describe him as the son of Mr John Dunphy Justice of the Peace and Poor Law Guardian of Ballygorey (near Mooncoin), Co. Kilkenny.) In July 1913, he won a cup for rowing in a regatta. In June 1915, he was writing to the Board of Guardians asking for an increase in salary - the first since his appointment in 1905! The Board secured an increase from £30 per annum to £52 per annum in July 1915, but by the end of the year he would be appointed a Temporary Second Lieutenant in the Royal Dublin Fusiliers and would serve in WWI. The Munster Express 10/02/1917 reports that he was home on leave to his father's home in Ballygorey, stating that he was "in the pink of condition and appeared none the worse for what he had gone through". In 1919, with the rank of Captain, he was appointed Assistant Provost Marshal. (Munster Express 29/03/1919). He would later (as his obituary in the Irish Times confirms) serve in the Free State Army, rising to the rank of Colonel. The obituary states that he resigned from the British Army in 1920, and served as second-in-command in the Curragh. He left the Irish Army in 1928, for health reasons, and went to London where he was 'in business'. He was survived by "his wife and twin children". His obituary was published in 1947, so he was about 61 when he died. Interestingly, the other Dunphy shown to be working at the Workhouse in 1911 (Mary B, 5 years older than her brother) was indeed his sister. Munster Express 19/11/1904 mentions her appointment and the name & address of her father. The most suggestive item I found in the Munster Express was the obituary of his mother Death of Mrs Dunphy Ballygorey. This was published 19/11/1921. She is described (without giving her christian or maiden name!) as the beloved wife of Mr John Dunphy JP and mother of Capt. John Dunphy a valuable official of Waterford Union. Seh died aged 73. The article goes on to mention two more sons: 1. Mr Patrick Dunphy SSO No 2 Council (I think that's a civil service position with a local council?) 2. Mr EJ Dunphy, National Bank, Chicago. The writer then mentions that the paper chronicled the visit home of EJ Dunphy some 12 months ago. Would it be possible that the visit home of a son from America would be a fitting occasion for a family photo? (I haven't had time to trace the newspaper account of this 1920 visit.) Mr EJ Dunphy appeared in the Munster Express in 1940 when his obituary from a Chicago Newspaper was published. He was 65 when he died, meaning he was born in about 1875, making him about 11 years older than his brother Michael. He was described as an authority on bank protection in his capacity as head of the bank's police force. He was responsible for the biggest cash shipment ever carried out in Chicago when the Foreman & First National Banks merged. He transferred $200,000,000 from the Foreman Bank vault to the National Bank's vault, using 26 armoured cars and 300 armed guards. As this was about the time of Al Capone and his companions, one can imagine that was quite some undertaking! The same edition of the Munster Express (02/02/1940) also records the death of another Dunphy brother. Mr John Dunphy died in London. He was recently retired from 'an important appointment' with John Walker & Sons (the distillers?) in London, with whom he had worked for over 30 years. His siblings were described as: Mr Patrick Dunphy, Ballygorey; Col Michael Dunphy, London; Supt. J Dunphy, Ballinasloe; Sr Monica, Order of the Holy Cross, Utah; Mrs Stevenson, Betael, Connecticut; Mrs Fielding, Rathkieran. The previous passing of Edward (EJ) Dunphy is also mentioned. Supt J Dunphy seems to be a younger brother of Michael. In 30/10/1909, we are told that 'Master Joseph Dunphy' won one of 6 vacancies in the GPO, Dublin out of a field of 200 candidates. He was the son of John Dunphy JP & brother of Michael, Assistant Master of the Waterford Workhouse. in 1925, the Munster Express published the obituary of a 'Mrs McGee, sister of John Dunphy JP. In that obituary, we read that one of her nephews was Mr Joseph Dunphy Supt of the Civic Guards. We see that Mary B Dunphy became Mrs Fielding. This is her marriage certificate from 31 March 1916, when she married Patrick Fielding, a widower from Rathkieran. Anyway, I'm a little puzzled that I haven't found more trace of the Dunphy family in the 1911 Census. And I haven't had time to search the civil records. However - and maybe someone else will follow up on this - I would guess that this might be a family photo taken whilst EJ was home from the States. We know the man in uniform is Michael. I would imagine that the two older people seated at the front are his parents John and Mrs Dunphy (who would die the next year. The woman in the middle might be his sister Mary B Fielding, with a child from her marriage that had happened 4 years previously. And the 3 other men in the back? One of them might be Mary B's husband, Patrick Fielding. Or, all three of them might be brothers to Michael... Maybe we can see a strong family resemblance in their faces? Anyway, the possible brothers are - EJ Dunphy (born c.1875, on holidays from the States), John (who worked with John Walker & Co. in London and would retire from work in the late 1930s... would he have come home from London?), Patrick Dunphy (who was described as SSO No 2 Council) and Joseph Dunphy (who won a post in the GPO in 1909, and would later become a Supt in the Civic Guards.) I would imagine that Joseph was born about 1890 or maybe even a little later if he was entering the Post Office in 1909... Anyone want to dig deeper or make an intelligent guess as to who each brother might be?

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    Bernard Healy

    • 04/Oct/2017 17:56:32

    Ah! Here are the Census Returns 1901 - with Michael listed as 'Mike', Ages of Children Mary (21) born c.1880 Mike (16) born c.1885 Patrick (11) born c.1890 Joe (9) born c.1892 And the 1911 Census showing John to be 60 (born c.1850) and his wife Margaret to be 62 (born c.1848). Only Patrick is left at home. Margaret is recorded as having had 10 children, with 8 still living. From all I've written above, we can identify 3 daughters - one a nun in the States, one married in Connecticut and one married in Ireland. And we have named 5 sons - John (London), EJ (USA), Michael (Workhouse & Army), Patrick (who seems to have ended up staying in Ballygorey) and Joe (Post Office & Civic Guards)

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    derangedlemur

    • 05/Oct/2017 06:23:47

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy That would seem to about cover it. Well done.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 05/Oct/2017 23:29:06

    Indeed https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy. I wouldn't have thought it possible, but you've outdone even the Trojan genealogicol.. geneological.. family history research from last week's Poole studio shot. A round of applause and gold star doesn't seem to cut it - so help yourself to virtual lollipop from the jar :)

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    Bernard Healy

    • 06/Oct/2017 12:52:12

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] Thank you for the lollipop! It's dangerous having an obsessive personality, an afternoon off work and access to Irish Newspaper Archives. ;) The one thing I forgot to mention is that there's still a Dunphy presence in Ballygorey. A bit of googling turned up a Fine Gael Councillor called Pat Dunphy from the townland. He may well be a descendent.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 09/Jun/2019 14:15:24

    Here is a birth record for John Fielding, mother Mary née Dunphy, father Patrick, on 25th May 1917. That child is never 3? No other Fielding/Dunphy babies in the timeframe. though.

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    patrickdunphy290656

    • 23/Jun/2020 00:00:54

    My sister in Glenmore Anna Phelan sent me on this information which I wasn't aware of. My name is Patrick Dunphy, Ballygorey, Mooncoin, Co Kilkenny. Your previous comment is correct. I am a Councillor and the photograph are of Great Grandfather John Dunphy and Great Grandmother Margaret who was a Madden from Corludy, Carrigeen. John junior wasn't in the photograph. In the back Edmund, Mike, Patrick and Joe. Mike eventually settled in London 33 Belsize Park.He married a sister of Kevin O'Higgins. and they had two children (twins) Desmond and Evelyn (Lynn) Mary both deceased now also, I was trying to get information on Mike and his family when my sister came across this as she googled. Desmond had a son who we have no contact for. Evelyn had a daughter Sue who I think may be deceased also. 2. Thanks for a great article and information I hadn't got. If anyone would like to get in touch my number is 087-6789304. A lot of history in the generation before John & Margaret. John's uncles were blacksmiths John & Joseph Kelly. Both left their jobs and were ordained priests and served in South Shields and Felling in Gateshead near Newcastle in the UK.

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    Bernard Healy

    • 03/Jul/2020 09:44:43

    @national https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland Just wanted to draw your attention to confirmation recently received from a relative that we have this photo identified correctly, as well as more precise details about who is in it.