Where: Leinster, Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown, Ireland
Try to find the spot where the photographer was standing.
When: 01 January 1900
Try to find the date or year when this image was made.
Quite a bit different from the temporary "Labourer's Hut" we saw from Friday's shot, this Mason image is labelled simply "Labourers' Cottages". Do we think there's enough to go-on to determine where the shot was taken?
Contributor: Thomas H. Mason & Sons photographers
Collection: Mason Photographic Collection
Date: c.1890-1910
NLI Ref: M57/31
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Contributor: Thomas H. Mason & Sons photographers
Collection: Mason Photographic Collection
Date: c.1890-1910
NLI Ref: M57/31
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sharon.corbet
Labourers' Cottages.
Niall McAuley
Bit of a seaside smell to this one.
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Apologies, we had an issue with the sync on the description and labels this morning. With thanks to https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] and https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley for establishing the catalogue references in the meantime, we've since updated the description....
guliolopez
This was probably one of many labourers' cottages built under some of the turn of the century acts. I couldn't say where these are. Because the country is littered with them. The 1881/1882 acts provided for the building of a lot of these. Mainly to address a lot of the probems we've discussed in the recent "evictions" series. A series of acts were passed between the 1880s and the 1930s, specifically with the intent of improving living conditions for agricultural labourers - local authorities were therefore involved in locating and compulsorily purchasing sites, building cottages and housing people. Tens of thousands of simple labourers cottages of this type were built all over the country. About the only thing that looks different for these ones is the second/dormer story - most were very simple one-storey buildings to pretty much the same plan. And the (newly en-vogue) water butt. If someone recognised the plan/form of this house we might be able to narrow down a county (as many local authorities and poor law unions built from their own plans). But otherwise it might be needle in a countryside of haystacks... (See Land & Labour Association#Cottage ownership and Land Acts#Labourers Act 1906 - both Wikipedia).
O Mac
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] We have a variation on a theme in the Claddagh here in Galway. These are known locally as "exservicemens houses" built under the "Irish Land (Provision for Sailors and Soldiers) Act 1919"
oaktree_brian_1976
looks like a nice place, wonder if it's still around?
Niall McAuley
I would bet money it's still standing. But I can't think of a way to find it yet....
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Thanks all - for the same reasons noted above, we thought that perhaps this might be a toughie. The only thing perhaps to go on was that the photo seemed a little "staged" - perhaps shortly after the homes were newly built. (We say that as the downstairs and upstairs window boxes would seem to indicate "dressing" for the photo). Although perhaps those who moved in were so house-proud in their new digs that they kept it spick and span - and perhaps that is what caught the Mason photographer's eye. Anyway, we've updated the tags for now, and will wait with baited breath to see if anyone can come up with a strategy for divining location....
derangedlemur
It reminds me of this one in Malahide: www.google.ie/maps/@53.4489644,-6.1557741,3a,75y,128.36h,... There's even the same iron railings behind that hedge. Maybe whoever built it had been inspired by these cottages.
derangedlemur
Here's another one in Clondalkin that seems not unrelated: www.google.ie/maps/@53.3307632,-6.3965216,3a,75y,184.88h,...
Niall McAuley
Following my nose to the seaside, I see this in Rosslare, which is close, but no cigar.
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Brilliant https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] and https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley. Thanks for sticking with it :) For some reason the style and landscape (the little of it we can see) suggests perhaps east- rather than west-coast. Who knows, we might get confirmation yet...
derangedlemur
The style looks familiar but I can't place it. I'll get it yet, though.
Sunny Harry
There is a water butt at the side. This probably means the soil is sandy, and it must be beside the sea somewhere.
derangedlemur
According to a document about roof conservation that I found, the flat pitch of the roofs means that the roofs are made of big bits of welsh slate, which at the time these would have been built would place them beside a port, probably on the east or south coast.
derangedlemur
I'm not sure it is east coast. All the adjacent records look like the west.
derangedlemur
The vast amount of mayweed suggests it's somewhere in these areas: bsbi.org/maps/?taxonid=2cd4p9h.ffr
Gregory PC
Are you definitely sure this is in Ireland?
Gregory PC
Although the fact that there are shamrocks on the flower pots does indicate it's most likely in Ireland!
derangedlemur
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gregcarey I was wondering about that. Maybe it was taken for the shamrocks.
derangedlemur
Maybe not so western after all. M57/35 is just outside Trim. www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/23299329663/in/datepost...
derangedlemur
Perhaps somewhere near Sion Mills. The architecture is starting to look similar: www.google.ie/maps/@54.784953,-7.474679,3a,90y,324.72h,77...
derangedlemur
Other not dissimilar places: Cushendun: www.google.ie/maps/@55.125726,-6.042984,3a,75y,217.01h,76...
derangedlemur
There must be some connection with Summerhill. catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000306204 No architect listed in NIAH though.
Architecture of Dublin
goo.gl/maps/xmieK2Hyi119nU1x5 - these arts and crafts cottages in Castleknock look a lot like them but alas are not the same
derangedlemur
Similar one in Kildare as well: goo.gl/maps/siGoweMjSi6v3epn6
Architecture of Dublin
Ballaly Terrace in Sandyford?? www.google.com/maps/@53.2776824,-6.2309219,3a,87.6y,45.47...
Niall McAuley
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Those are very similar! In a longer terrace, and more brick around the windows, but those dormers are identical!
Architecture of Dublin
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] if we can find out who designed or built one we may be able to find out where the other is! www.dlrcoco.ie/sites/default/files/atoms/files/balally_te...
steveAT
kingston cottages, blackglen road, sandyford. Architecture of Dublin above was spot on though. there are examples of these cottages and slight variants around south dublin and north wicklow. did my best to take a photo from the same spot, and line it up the same.. flic.kr/p/2oxLaAU
steveAT
www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1Sg-xUxZSeS4BhmZqqWPv4kf3a... here's a map i made showing the locations of all the dormer cottages like these that i know of. there are 2 variations of the dormers, at different heights relative to the rest of the roof. there's also a load of single story versions of these around too.
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Thanks Steve, I have updated our map and tags. Mary https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/52867970044/
Niall McAuley
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Well done! The cottages are marked but not named on the OSI 25" map, not listed in the NIAH or DIA. This Trinity page describing the 25" says the 2nd edition for Dublin was surveyed 1906-09.