Doyle, half-length portrait

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From old stones to a handsome young man with the intriguing title "Doyle, half-length portrait". We wondered who Doyle was and why should this portrait might be special?

Based on logic that the "half-length portraits" immediately alongside this catalogue image are of Irish Volunteers, a convincing argument was championed by sharon.corbet that this is Patrick Doyle - one of the "Forgotten 10". This would seem to be corroborated by contemporary images attributed to be of Doyle. Excellent sleuthing as usual!

(Note: As with other Keogh studio images and copies, we've mapped this to Dorset Street Lower - the location of Keoghs' studio)



Photographer: Brendan Keogh

Collection: Keogh Photographic Collection

Date: 1914-1923 (taken before 1921 & possibly before 1916)

NLI Ref: KE 33

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    derangedlemur

    • 25/Nov/2015 09:07:04

    Thomas Doyle, Silk Weaver, why not? We're a bit short on clues for this one.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 25/Nov/2015 09:08:09

    KE32 is De Valera, and KE34 is Eamonn Duggan, so I'm thinking politician.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 25/Nov/2015 09:10:47

    Patrick Doyle "one of six men hanged in Mountjoy Prison on the morning of 14 March 1921. He was aged 29 and lived at St. Mary's Place, Dublin. He was one of The Forgotten Ten."

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    DannyM8

    • 25/Nov/2015 09:17:56

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Brilliant

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    Niall McAuley

    • 25/Nov/2015 09:21:27

    If the KE catalogue is chronological, this is after De Valera was elected chancellor of the national university in 1921.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 25/Nov/2015 09:28:54

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] Not until this is a posthumous photo - DeValera's predecessor William Walsh only died on April 9th 1921.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 25/Nov/2015 09:40:24

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Well done!

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    Niall McAuley

    • 25/Nov/2015 09:51:22

    Brother of Séan Doyle, an original member of The Squad, killed at the Custom House fighting 6 weeks after Patrick was hanged.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 25/Nov/2015 10:13:57

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley I was using similar logic to you - but IRA rather than politicians.

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    ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq

    • 25/Nov/2015 10:52:04

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Good work there. I tried a right-click Google image search with "Doyle" - nothing. Then with "Patrick Doyle", which came up with this site of a postcard collection of the 1916 Easter Rising, including what looks like the same image. Which implies the photo is 1916. www.theeasterrising.eu/100Postc/Postca.htm (see under J.J. Walsh postcards)

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    sharon.corbet

    • 25/Nov/2015 11:32:01

    Now I think that wiki article has attached the wrong photo to a Patrick Doyle. There was a Patrick Doyle killed at Clanwilliam House during the 1916 Rising.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 25/Nov/2015 11:36:27

    According to here, that Patrick Doyle was manager at the Milltown Laundry, which fits better with the style of the clothes than the other Patrick Doyle who was a carpenter.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 25/Nov/2015 12:43:09

    Here is a Patrick Doyle, Laundry Overseer in the 1911 census, although he is not a Church of Ireland man, pace Sharon's linked article.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 25/Nov/2015 12:54:56

    After the battle at Clanwilliam House in which this Doyle died: Step out of the car please, Sir

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    sharon.corbet

    • 25/Nov/2015 13:08:04

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] To add to the confusion this BMH record explains that there were two Patrick Doyles on either side of the canal in 1916. One at the Parochial Hall on Northumberland Road, and the other in Clanwilliam House. (Plus a couple of James Doyles too.)

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    oaktree_brian_1976

    • 25/Nov/2015 14:01:49

    I still like the Silk Weaver theory myself

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 25/Nov/2015 20:29:13

    Thanks and congrats to https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] in particular - Top drawer sleuthing! Bonus points in the matric to https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia for seemingly confirming that the image was taken before 1916 and to https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley for (also) spotting the catalogue sequence,

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    Ciaran Clancy

    • 25/Nov/2015 22:21:00

    this is my great great uncle Patrick Doyle one of the forgotten 10

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    Ciaran Clancy

    • 25/Nov/2015 22:37:06

    he was a union man one of the founders of the carpenters union have a lot of history on him if any would like and yes his brother was Sean Doyle

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 26/Nov/2015 16:31:55

    Thank you Ciaran, when you look at that portrait you can see that he was a very handsome and strong looking character. I was thinking last evening how his family must have been very traumatised to have him die in such a public and brutal manner, even if it was part of his patriotic commitment! We will notify the staff in the Library to see if they need it.

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    J.o.t.a.

    • 28/Nov/2015 15:21:26

    Wow what a story this guy has... Faved to remember that! It's amazing how even a part of his family is here on Flickr. Always love the way NLI works here in The Commons :)

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 28/Nov/2015 19:49:24

    Thanks https://www.flickr.com/photos/j-o-t-a - much appreciated!

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    indian59

    • 20/May/2016 22:31:20

    Patrick was added in here,along with others then[8-2014]unidentified at the NLI catalogue. www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=oa.337187786450610&ty...