Today we have a wonderful Poole shot taken exactly 100 years ago this month. It features the "Erin's Hope Prize Flute Band" from Waterford taken on 1st August 1915 but where?
The location was identified as the steps at De la Salle College, Waterford by
Niall McAuley
There are some fantastic stories about the band, have a read of the comments below.
Photographer:
A. H. Poole
Collection:
Poole Photographic Studio, Waterford
Date: August 1915 (or late July 1915)
NLI Ref:
POOLEWP 2643b
You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at
catalogue.nli.ie
Info:
Owner:
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
Source:
Flickr Commons
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Niall McAuley
Here are a Sinn Féin Band on the same steps in another Poole shot.
Niall McAuley
What's here? (OSI map link to interesting looking steps). Streetview. Yes, looks like the steps at De la Salle College, Waterford.
sharon.corbet
"The Robert Emmet Independent Band, founded in the 1870's, changed its name to the Erin's Hope Prize Flute Band in 1899 and won prizes in competitions all over Ireland.." From Irishmen or English Soldiers by Thomas Dooley.
Niall McAuley
sharon.corbet
I read 25/7/15 on the sign below the band name.
sharon.corbet
I presume that this is the same as the Erin's Hope Fife and Drum Band as mentioned in the BMH files: "The unit used an arrangement of Brian Boru's march made by William Modge, bandmaster of 'The Erin's Hope Fife and Drum Band', as its regimental march. " Source "Another band taking part in the musical interlude while the effort was being made to burn Meagher's flag was called the "Erin's Hope Fife and Drum Band'. That band was founded in honour of the Irish-American Fenians who crossed the Atlantic in the brigantine, "Erin's Hope", and who landed near Helvick, Dungarvan, to take part in the Fenian Rising." Source
Niall McAuley
In 1914, the band led a march organizing the Volunteers in Waterford. Source
Nanihta (Sol Vázquez)
Amazing!
historical front
Amazing!
Swordscookie
The local band today appears to be the "Thomas Francis Meagher Fife and Drum Band" with their bandroom on the Yellow Road in Waterford. On their Facebook page is the following with a photograph of the junction of Doyle St. and Yellow Road! "Doyle Street. On Jan. 1st. 1923 four men left the Bandroom on Lower Yellow Road at about 1.00am following a dance. Two of the men Michael and Sam Barnes went home to Costelloes Lane and the other two went up Doyle Street. Pierce Murphy and Denis Murphy. Suddenly shots rand out and Pierce Murphy fell dead. Denis Murphy deposed the men who fired the shots were in Free State uniform, however, the military denied they were soldiers." The "Thomas Francis Meagher Band" has been around for over 150 years. Is it possibly one and the same as the "Erins Hope"????
ofarrl
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/swordscookie/] The Barrack street Band formed in 1870 is also still in existence Sean www.barrackstreetband.com/index.php?contentid=history
Swordscookie
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Thank you Paul, I was aware of that, my cousins son played for them. They are however a Brass and Reed band whereas the Erins Hope were Fife and Drum!
ofarrl
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/swordscookie/] I had a feeling you would have known that alright. I don't think there is any connection with the Erin's Hope band and the Thomas Francis Meagher band however. I believe both bands, Barrack Street and Thomas Francis Meagher, are the only survivors from a time when Waterford had many more such as the Morgan Street Fife and drum band and the John Street band. I think the Waterford branch of the Irish Foresters also had their own band, this is a photo of them taken at the Courthouse, catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000592809/Image?lookfor=http:...
Carol Maddock
https://www.flickr.com/photos/swordscookie Yes, https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] is right. Erin's Hope were still called EH in the 1930s. Found an account of them performing at an unemployment march/demonstration in Waterford around 1932, which I think a/the bishop was using as an anti-Communism opportunity.
ofarrl
This is a photo I acquired some time back which I am told is the Erin's Hope band leading a parade on the Quay, Waterford. This is possibly the Waterford Volunteer parade Niall referred to above. Photo is by Keogh Brothers,
seánÓbriain
The Erin's Hope bandroom had a vote of sympathy for my great-grandfather when he passed in 1947. I wonder if he was a member.