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Where: Cork, Ireland
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When: 01 January 1910
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This narrow street with an open top electric tram has lots of people about.
roaming paddy Was spot on with the location very early in the day, Location Identified as Blackrock Road, Ballintemple, Cork.
Niall McAuley points us to the Cork City Councils website - www.Corkpastandpresent.ie where we get a little history on the use of electric trams in Cork.
"Cork's electric tramway system began operating on 22 December 1898. The hub of the system was near the Father Mathew Statue in St Patrick's Street. The trams operated from 7.30 am to 11.00 pm every day of the week. The tram shown at St Luke's would have served the Summerhill-Sunday's Well route. The other routes were Blackpool-Douglas and Tivoli-Blackrock. The arrival of the bus service and the increasing use of the motor car after the 1920s spelt the end for the tramway system. Cork bade farewell to its trams on 30 September 1931."
Niall also narrows the date a little to Circa 1904 - 1920
Photographer: Fergus O’Connor
Collection: Fergus O’Connor Collection
Date: Circa 1904 - 1920
NLI Ref: OCO 370
You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at catalogue.nli.ie
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roaming paddy Was spot on with the location very early in the day, Location Identified as Blackrock Road, Ballintemple, Cork.
Niall McAuley points us to the Cork City Councils website - www.Corkpastandpresent.ie where we get a little history on the use of electric trams in Cork.
"Cork's electric tramway system began operating on 22 December 1898. The hub of the system was near the Father Mathew Statue in St Patrick's Street. The trams operated from 7.30 am to 11.00 pm every day of the week. The tram shown at St Luke's would have served the Summerhill-Sunday's Well route. The other routes were Blackpool-Douglas and Tivoli-Blackrock. The arrival of the bus service and the increasing use of the motor car after the 1920s spelt the end for the tramway system. Cork bade farewell to its trams on 30 September 1931."
Niall also narrows the date a little to Circa 1904 - 1920
Photographer: Fergus O’Connor
Collection: Fergus O’Connor Collection
Date: Circa 1904 - 1920
NLI Ref: OCO 370
You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at catalogue.nli.ie
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ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
Same tram catenaries as ... https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/16222787771/
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia Yes and I thought the style of tram looked similar. I don't think that its in Dublin, I don't know any street/road with that configuration!
roaming paddy .
This looks to me to be between Cork City and Blackrock,Ballintemple ?
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
Yes - Blackrock Road - GoogleMapsStreetView - goo.gl/maps/4zsaI
mogey
think your right @roaming Paddy www.instantstreetview.com/2oji9uz39bjskz3eazn9z2u
mogey
sorry Beachcomber..we overlapped!
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mogey I like yours better !
roaming paddy .
It hasn't changed much.
sharon.corbet
OSI Map.
Niall McAuley
"Vaughan's cure for Asthma and Bronchitis"
Niall McAuley
The OSI 25" does not show the tramline along this whole stretch, but it was surveyed in 1899, and the trams only started in 1898, so I'd say it was not finished.
Niall McAuley
House El Dorado is from 1904.
dorameulman
It could be Douglas Road or Blackrock road in Cork.
Niall McAuley
House Rossmoyne is not here, built 1920.
Niall McAuley
James J. Murphy and co. Famous Stout & Porter - Sign is on the gable of the building which is now The Temple Inn.
Niall McAuley
here is the same #7 tram on the South Mall, with the same ad for Vaughan's Cure: catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000300969
roaming paddy .
God bless your eyesight Niall.
Niall McAuley
I think the coal cart is probably from Sutton's Coals, advertised on another cork tram here.
Niall McAuley
Cork trams all seemed to carry a two letter code, like WS, DS, or in this case, TP. According to corkpastandpresent, WS meant Sundays Well to Summer Hill. Here is a BP, with the side visible, saying Blackpool-Douglas Looking in the 1907 Guy's almanac, P17, I find: Blackrock (BS) and Tivoli (TP) Douglas (DS) and Blackpool (BP) Summerhill and Sundays Well (WS) So TP, as in this image, means on it's way from Blackrock to Tivoli.
sharon.corbet
Suttons apparently opened in 1902, and is still around, though now owned by Bord na Mona.
Carol Maddock
Vaughan's Cure was useful even in "obstinate cases"... https://www.flickr.com/photos/47297387@N03/15859794864/
Niall McAuley
I think the rest of the Vaughan's ad might say "gives immediate relief".
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
https://www.flickr.com/photos/47297387@N03 Carol who???
Niall McAuley
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland All rise!
Carol Maddock
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland Excuse me! *Hands on hips* Maddock is a venerable Waterford name...
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
https://www.flickr.com/photos/47297387@N03 Hello! Or Cooee as they say where I am. I bet you liked that excellent example of typesetting and font skills.
Carol Maddock
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] Cooee Yourself! You can never have too many fonts... :)
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley NMcC, Fascinating stuff about the tram initials (unless it is all BS). I wonder if the tram is travelling east TO Blackrock (BS), 'cos of the way the passengers are seated on top and what looks like the driver has a leather satchel - ie he is more likely to be the conductor. The other end of the tram would have BS. BCA
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Super...
Niall McAuley
http://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia I think you are probably right. I was thinking the conductor would change the sign at the terminus, but we know these trams don't turn around, They could just leave TP on one end, and BS on the other. And that uniformed gent is certainly not driving, so the tram is on it's way to BS, heading away from the camera.
finbarlawless
That's ballintemple village blackRock road ,the village is still the same