Club House, Clonmel, Co. Tipperary

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It transpires that this is the Tipperary County Club, it also transpires that there is very little information about the club on the web. However we did discover that the club was founded in 1836 and that Lord Lismore was Chairman for a period.

Billiards were played at the club and the Club Manager in 1901 was William Henry Chapman.

Sharon rediscovered the concept of a "Surprise Party" a concept I believe we should all work together to bring it back into vogue. I think you will get the jist of it from Sharons post from 1912

"At Clonmel a few nights ago a big crowd of gay young revellers of both sexes, all armed with eligible supplies of "provender," solid and liquid, met by appointment at the County Club, and proceeded in motors and carriages to "Salisbury," the stately residence of Mr and Mrs Cleeve. Captain Lord, dressed as a highwayman, rode in front of the procession, and on arrival knocked loudly for admittance. The owner of the disturbed mansion came to the door in his dressing-gown, the servants having retired, and surveyed the scene by the light of a candle which he carried...

We are not told if they were welcomed in by Mr Cleeve, surely they were offered some toffee and condensed milk!!


Photographer: Robert French

Collection: The Lawrence Photograph Collection

Date: Between 1886 - 1914

NLI Ref: L_CAB_07684

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    sharon.corbet

    • 24/Mar/2015 08:30:15

    A Past & Present from Clonmel online. Current Streetview

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    derangedlemur

    • 24/Mar/2015 08:34:43

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Did you just break the OSI?

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    derangedlemur

    • 24/Mar/2015 08:38:19

    Not a huge amount of detail on what the club was - www.buildingsofireland.ie/niah/search.jsp?type=record&...

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    sharon.corbet

    • 24/Mar/2015 08:39:21

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I hadn't got that far yet :-) I'm still trying to figure out what Club the Clubhouse was for.

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    derangedlemur

    • 24/Mar/2015 08:40:29

    Built 1830-1840. It's already looking fairly down at heel in this picture.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 24/Mar/2015 08:40:36

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] I think it was the Tipperary County Club (see e.g. Lord Lismore)

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    sharon.corbet

    • 24/Mar/2015 08:59:47

    Has to be from after 1886, as that's when Bagnell Street became Parnell Street. (See streetsign on right.)

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    derangedlemur

    • 24/Mar/2015 09:06:05

    The OSI has recovered and it is indeed the County Club: maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,620658,622517,7,9 It seems to have been Bagwell rather than Bagnell st: maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,620658,622517,7,7 See also WIlliam Bagwell: landedestates.nuigalway.ie/LandedEstates/jsp/estate-show.... I bet he was known as BillyBags.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 24/Mar/2015 09:08:30

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] Typo on my part. I meant to say Bagwell.

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    DannyM8

    • 24/Mar/2015 09:32:54

    www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003914940/ Wm Henry Chapman - Club Manager 1901 Census + there is a Billiard Marker!

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    sharon.corbet

    • 24/Mar/2015 09:34:21

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] It was Jeremiah Healy as billiard marker earlier in the club's life. Incidentally, that's at least the second court case I've found with County Club employees acting as witnesses. Oh wait, it's actually the Tichborne Case in both cases.

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    DannyM8

    • 24/Mar/2015 09:47:14

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/16914810775/ Advert from the Irish Times 1882 for Manager - Waiter

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    sharon.corbet

    • 24/Mar/2015 11:18:18

    The County Club was still around in 1912 as somewhere to meet before a "surprise party". At Clonmel a few nights ago a big crowd of gay young revellers of both sexes, all armed with eligible supplies of "provender," solid and liquid, met by appointment at the County Club, and proceeded in motors and carriages to "Salisbury," the stately residence of Mr and Mrs Cleeve. Captain Lord, dressed as a highwayman, rode in front of the procession, and on arrival knocked loudly for admittance. The owner of the disturbed mansion came to the door in his dressing-gown, the servants having retired, and surveyed the scene by the light of a candle which he carried... ETA: The rest of the article: Explanations followed, and Mrs Cleere being summoned both host and hostess entered cordially into the spirit of the fun, and opened their handsome ballroom to the gay intruders Dancing was Indulged in for several hours, and an impromptu supper was arranged from the baskets of imported comestibles. This was reported in the Brisbane Courier, of all places...

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    DannyM8

    • 24/Mar/2015 14:48:25

    The Street sign on the building on the right is still there in the street view. It says Parnell Street, Benjamin Wright, Mayor 1886. So it is after 1886. Good value for street "furniture" if you ask me.

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    DannyM8

    • 24/Mar/2015 15:56:10

    From Bassett's Directory 1889 Lord Lismore is ChairmanClubs, Tipperary County The Mall Clonmel Est 1836

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    sharon.corbet

    • 24/Mar/2015 16:23:39

    The Book of Tipperary has a description of the club in 1889. It was founded in 1836 and has a present membership of 106. The annual subscription is four guineas, and the entrance fee four guineas... ...There are four bedrooms, dining room, billiard room, etc...

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    Dún Laoghaire Micheál

    • 24/Mar/2015 22:42:41

    That looks like a substantial Cemetery in the background. How does that correspond to contemporary maps?

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    sharon.corbet

    • 25/Mar/2015 02:35:13

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I'm not entirely sure where you mean, but the OSI maps https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] linked to above show a field to the left with gasworks behind.

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    derangedlemur

    • 25/Mar/2015 07:19:18

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I think you're misreading patches of lichen or large rocks in the wall of that field of deer as headstones in the distance. It's just a wall.

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    Dún Laoghaire Micheál

    • 25/Mar/2015 07:27:57

    Derangedlemur Thanks for that (I'm off to Specsavers).

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 25/Mar/2015 18:25:43

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I can see what you mean but I reckon I'm a candidate for the same supplier:-)