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Where: Cork, Ireland

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When: 01 October 1899

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Again, we must give thanks to our very good friends Bill Posters and Bill Stickers! There's a great array of posters for dating this one - but still plenty of fun to be had with the shops and businesses, etc.

Plus, was a vote for Kennedy a vote against Unions? (See graffiti on wall at extreme right)

Photographer: Almost certainly Robert French of Lawrence Photographic Studios, Dublin

Date: Circa October 1899

NLI Ref.: L_ROY_06511

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    DannyM8

    • 10/Dec/2013 09:09:31

    maps.google.ie/maps?q=Youghal&hl=en&ll=51.952346,... Street View

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    DannyM8

    • 10/Dec/2013 09:15:53

    The Quain Family from 1901 www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000599918/ Rohan Tobacconist www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000599912/

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    DannyM8

    • 10/Dec/2013 09:18:18

    There is a Kennedy a wine merchant on the street in 1901 www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000599922/

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    DannyM8

    • 10/Dec/2013 09:19:51

    Fitzgerald an engineer on the street? www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000599925/

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    DannyM8

    • 10/Dec/2013 09:23:20

    O'Sullivan Hair Dresser www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000522014/

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    DannyM8

    • 10/Dec/2013 09:29:46

    maps.google.ie/maps?q=Youghal&hl=en&ll=51.953144,... Merrick's department store was still there when the google van visited Youghal - but only just I think. Here is the Merrick Family in 1901 (Drapers) www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000599421/

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    DannyM8

    • 10/Dec/2013 09:43:38

    Youghal man John McGrath who lived in the Clock Gate from 1939 to 1959 speaks about his memories of those day and other stories. The tower built in 1777 was part of the towns fortifications. It served the town as a gaol and a public gallows until 1837. It then became a family home until 1959 when the last family left, which was the McGrath family. See Video here - www.youghalonline.com/2013/05/18/the-mcgraths-of-the-cloc...

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    DannyM8

    • 10/Dec/2013 09:54:49

    See plaque over top of arch. The town uses an unofficial coat of arms showing a sailing ship and tower. This is based on the old seal of Youghal Corporation, abolished in 1840. www.ngw.nl/int/ier/y/youghal.htm

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    John Spooner

    • 10/Dec/2013 10:00:06

    From the Situations Vacant columns of the Belfast News-letter Monday, July 4, 1887

    WANTED, SALESWOMAN for Shawl and Mantle Department. - Experience, reference, and salary to S.J. Merrick, Youghal
    Monday, September 7, 1891
    BOOTS. - Pushing SALESMAN WANTED.- State reference, experience and salary (indoor), to S.J. Merrick
    Tuesday. September 15, 1891, and Thursday, September 17, 1891
    WATED, at once, first-class MILLINER.- Apply, stating salary (indoor), copies of references, and experience, to S. J. Merrick, Youghal
    Friday, October 9, 1891
    WANTED, immediately, a pushing SALESWOMAN, for Mantle Department; none but those having a thorough knowledge of the department need apply. - Send copies of references, salary, &c, to S.J. Merrick, Youghal

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    John Spooner

    • 10/Dec/2013 10:05:44

    The 1901 census shows the Merricks to be Methodists. Would that be why they advertised for staff in the Belfast Newsletter? I think we've seen something like that before (but with more explicit religious requirements in the advert). Edit: Found it. Belturbet. A drapers which wanted an RC salesman advertised in Freeman's Journal; the shop which wanted a protestant lad advertised in the Belfast news-letter. One of them required a 'pushing' salesman, as in the Merricks advert.

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    John Spooner

    • 10/Dec/2013 10:30:36

    WRT Bill Stickers and his chum and the Clock Gate. This featured in an 1887 court case at Youghal Quarter Sessions. Evicted tenants claimed that the notices of ejectment had not been displayed according to law.

    Mr. Shinkwin representing the tenants said that the special order regulating service oj ejectment had not been comlied with in this case. The order, amongst other things, specified that a copy should be posted on the "usual" place in the town for posting public notices, and examined several witnesses who swore that the clock gate was the usual place, while the Ferryslip House was rarely, if ever, used for the purpose.
    Unfortunately for the tenants,
    His Worship held that the posting in the Slip House was sufficient, more especially as the tenant got a copy of the ejectment through the post.
    (Freeman's Journal, Monday, June 13, 1887)

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 10/Dec/2013 11:10:37

    " The Clock’s function was not only to tell the time of day but to issue warnings, announce events, but peculiarly to broadcast the death of children. Over time the clock became a symbol of the society and shared community of Youghal. By the mid to late 18th century, Trinity Castle was in a dilapidated condition, and in 1773 the Corporation decided to knock down the building (saving the clock and bell) and replace it with one that had sufficient room for a gaol and gaoler’s house. The present monument was erected in 1777 and designed by local architect William Meade, who also designed The Mall House, which is now the town’s Civic Offices. By 1836, the Government ordered the gaol to be closed down until a new one was built. The human stories of the building have endured throughout the years; from the displays of hangings and quartering, to the more sombre and less well known, such as the fatal accident of the young Michael Sullivan, a gas fitter who died in 1891 while cleaning the lamp on the Clock Gate. The Town Commissioners were not deemed liable for the accident but as a compromise and in sympathy they agreed to pay the family £5 for their loss and the position of gas fitter passed to Michael’s father, William Sullivan."
    From www.youghal.ie/index.php?option=com_content&task=view...

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 10/Dec/2013 13:52:57

    I checked in the Guy's Munster Directory for 1899 and found the names of the Youghal Bill Posters! They were Patrick Cashman of Curtins Lane and George Kinablin of Water Lane...

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    John Spooner

    • 10/Dec/2013 16:32:30

    Freeman's Journal, Wednesday, August 3, 1898

    CYCLING ACCIDENT NEAR YOUGHAL Our Youghal correspondent writes that on Monday evening a young man named Patrick Cashman, draper's assistant, met with a strange and serious accident about a mile from this town. It appears he was riding towards Youghal with anther young man, and when they reached the Brick Company's works some flaw in the bar caused the front wheel to actually break away from the rest of the machine , bringing the rider suddenly down on the side of his head with a crash. When his companion went to his assistance he found him unconscious, in which state he remained for a considerable time. A doctor was quickly summoned, and it was ascertained thta the injured man's face and head were considerably bruised, the wounds bleeding considerably.
    He recovered enough by April 11 1900 to attend a public meeting in Youghal, with the purpose of arranging a Gaelic feis to be held on May Sunday. (All assuming that there was only one Patrick Cashman in Youghal.)

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    John Spooner

    • 10/Dec/2013 16:43:38

    3 people in Youghal called Patrick Cashman in the 1901 census. The Patrick Cashman in the 1901 census with the occupation Bill Poster, is 55, so not the young draper's assistant who fell off his bike, but he did have Irish and English, so might be the one who attended the public meeting. Of the other Youghal Patrick Cashmans in the 1901 census one has age 0, and the third is a 17-year-old labourer. Perhaps (like many of H.G. Wells' cycling draper's assistants) he found being a draper's assistant incredibly boring and gave it all up to be a labourer. He's still a labourer in 1911, but has only aged 7 years! (unlike his siblings and parents)

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 15/Mar/2017 08:49:03

    WTF ! - 1910 animation by the Horgan brothers - youtu.be/Cir8DGQnFbQ

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 15/Mar/2017 09:26:36

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia - I was just about to admonish your choice of language/acronym. But, having just watched that myself, I now realise it is a perfectly reasonable and appropriate reaction; Whiskey Tango Foxtrot indeed!!!