The Grubb Family

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When: 15 August 1937

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We believe this is Colonel R.R. Grubb, pictured with his wife and son at Castle Grace, Clogheen, Co. Tipperary.

Photographer: Poole Photographic Studios, Waterford

Date: Sunday, 15 August 1937

NLI Ref: POOLEWP 4221

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Owner: National Library of Ireland on The Commons
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    DannyM8

    • 29/Aug/2013 08:11:21

    They have a dog....

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 29/Aug/2013 08:15:54

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] And a very fine dog too...

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    DannyM8

    • 29/Aug/2013 08:26:45

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] I could not agree with you more. There is a Rosa Frederica Grubb (65) in Clogheen in 1911 - possibly this mans Mother? she is described as a "Female Farmer" (not too many of them to the dozen in 1911!!) www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003292386/

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    O Mac

    • 29/Aug/2013 08:39:13

    2.43PM

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    blackpoolbeach

    • 29/Aug/2013 08:53:46

    There could be a connection with Howard Grubb of Irish telescope fame. The Parsons giant telescope is on www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/8392017304/in/photostream/ The firm of Grubb Parsons made telescopes in Newcastle upon Tyne.

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    joseph - jb7

    • 29/Aug/2013 08:55:13

    I wonder what is their relationship with the famous Dublin Grubbs, 19th century lens and telescope makers from Rathmines? I'd really like to get to use a Grubb lens at some point... I noticed a plaque dedicated to the family in St. John's cathedral in Cashel...

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    John Spooner

    • 29/Aug/2013 09:32:07

    London Times August 6th 1913:

    MR. R. R. DE C GRUBB AND MISS LENEY A marriage has been arranged between RIchard Raymond de Crucy Grubb, 3rd King's Own Hussars, only son of Mr. and Mrs. S. R. Grubb, of Castle Grace, Co. Tipperary, and Ruth, younger daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Alfred C. Leney, of The Garden House, Saltwood, Kent.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 29/Aug/2013 09:32:08

    The best birthday present a 123 year old library ever got! Listen to this short clip from RTÉ archives with former director Alf MacLochlainn on what nearly happened our gorgeous Lawrence Collection because of a shortage of glass in WWII...

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    John Spooner

    • 29/Aug/2013 09:39:54

    If they don't look very happy, here's why: Deaths column, London Times, July 21, 1937

    GRUBB - On July 8 1937, when flying over the Irish Sea, RICHARD de C, beloved elder son of COLONEL and Mrs. R. GRUBB, Castle Grace, Clogheen, Co. Tipperary, and Cove Court, Farnborough, Hants, aged 22.

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    John Spooner

    • 29/Aug/2013 09:49:35

    Small ad in the London Times June 26 1940

    AWAY FROM AIR RAIDS - To be LET, for expenses only, CASTLE GRACE, CLOGHEEN< CO. TIPPERARY (Tel Clogheen 9). Every help given to housekeep; every convenience; car will meet boat at port. - For details write Mrs. Grubb at above address.

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    John Spooner

    • 29/Aug/2013 09:55:14

    Cove Court, Farnborough. the Grubbs' other residence. Once a grand house with stables, but which has now made way for residential development.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 29/Aug/2013 10:00:34

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner] Going to have to get you a death announcement klaxon!

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    John Spooner

    • 29/Aug/2013 10:02:08

    The young man in the picture must be Patrick London Times, July 23, 1947

    MR P. DE C. GRUBB AND MISS V. A. WOODHOUSE The engagement is announced between Patrick de Cruce, son of Colonel and Mrs R. R. Grubb, of Castle Grace, County Tipperary, and Vivienne Anne, younger daughter of Mr. and Mrs. R Woodhouse, of Ballinacourty, County Waterford (present address: Ballydavid, County Waterford).

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    John Spooner

    • 29/Aug/2013 10:11:33

    Not sure of the etiquette. Does a peaceful death in old age require a klaxon? London Times death column Dec 29 1970

    GRUBB - On December 28th, 1970, Richard Raymond de Cruce Grubb, peacefully at Castle Grace, Clogheen, co. Tipperary, late Col., 3rd Hussars, beloved husband of Ruth. Funeral strictly private.
    Ruth died on June 4th 1980 at Castle Grace.

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    O Mac

    • 29/Aug/2013 10:13:10

    Richard Raymond De Cruce Grubb b. 11 June 1886, d. 28 December 1970 Richard Raymond De Cruce Grubb was born on 11 June 1886. He was the son of Samuel Richard Grubb and Alice Hannah Binney. He married Ruth Leney, daughter of Alfred Charles Leney, on 8 July 1914. He died on 28 December 1970 at age 84. He was educated at Wellington College, Crowthorne, Berkshire, England. He was educated at Royal Military College, Sandhurst, Berkshire, England. He fought in the First World War. He gained the rank of hussar in the service of the Third Hussars. He gained the rank of officer in the service of the Royal Flying Corps. He was with the Passed Staff College at Camberley, Surrey, England. He was decorated with the award of the Military Cross (M.C.) in 1916. He gained the rank of commander between 1932 and 1936 in the service of the Third Hussars. He was a cavalry instructor at the Senior Officers' School between 1936 and 1938. He retired from the military in 1939. In 1939 he was re-empd for service on the General Staff. He lived at Castle Grace, County Tipperary, Ireland. Children of Richard Raymond De Cruce Grubb and Ruth Leney Richard de Cruce Grubb b. 5 July 1915, d. 8 Jul 1937 Patrick de Cruce Grubb. b 25 July 1918 Patrick de Cruce Grubb was educated at Wellington College, Crowthorne, Berkshire, England. He fought in the Second World War, he was severely wounded and so invalided out. He gained the rank of Lieutenant in the service of the Third Hussars. thepeerage.com/p61939.htm#i619387

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    Niall McAuley

    • 29/Aug/2013 10:19:37

    Castlegrace House, East of Clogheen, Tipperary on the OS 25". I imagine the stone work is Castle Grace (in Ruins). Bing Aerial View.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 29/Aug/2013 10:23:36

    Still the Grubb family home per the NUIG Landed Estates database.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 29/Aug/2013 10:28:37

    At the NIAH, the house dates from 1860.

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    La Belle Province

    • 29/Aug/2013 11:29:25

    Dropping by to wish the National Library of Ireland a very happy 123rd birthday!

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 29/Aug/2013 12:07:06

    Hip - hip - hooray - - - one - two - three ...

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    ccferrie

    • 29/Aug/2013 12:36:57

    I didn't realise it was your birthday! Happy Birthday, here's your present... www.flickr.com/photos/chethams_library/sets/7215763411627...

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 29/Aug/2013 14:32:03

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Can't argue with 2.43 p.m. or 14:43, so now we have the date and the time!

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 29/Aug/2013 14:36:08

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_belle_province] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] Thank you! And you [http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]], what do you give the library that has everything? More photos... :)

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 29/Aug/2013 14:39:02

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackpoolbeach] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/joseph-jb7] Grubb is such an unusual name - you would think there's a connection somewhere along the line...

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    dorameulman

    • 29/Aug/2013 14:54:53

    That's a beautiful family portrait. I love the dog included.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 29/Aug/2013 15:09:33

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner] Here's where Richard de Cruce Grubb sadly went missing...

    SOLO FLYER MISSING ON JOURNEY TO IRELAND No news had been received early this morning of Mr. R. Grubb (22), who left Liverpool yesterday in an Aeronca monoplance for Dublin and was last sighted seen flying over Holyhead. Mr. Grubb, who is a well-known pilot of Aeronca machines, won the Folkestone Aero Trophy in an Aeronca last year. He is employed by Aeronautical Corporation Ltd., at its Peterborough works. He is single and has relatives in Ireland. Shipping in the Irish Sea was warned last night to look out for the monoplane... (Irish Independent, Friday, 9 July 19137)
    P.S. Klaxon warning not necessary for elderly death in the natural run of events... P.P.S. Is it not very odd timing for a family photo? If to celebrate Patrick's engagement, surely Vivienne would have been in the photo too?? And finally, would growing up near Farnborough Airfield have inspired Richard to be an aviator?

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    O Mac

    • 29/Aug/2013 15:30:44

    Would this be Mr.R Grubb and his ill-fated flying machine? www.nli.ie/glassplates/P_WP/P_WP_4234.jpg

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    Niall McAuley

    • 29/Aug/2013 16:03:32

    That does not look exactly like any Aeronca model I can find...

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    John Spooner

    • 29/Aug/2013 16:53:53

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] Not only proximity to Farnborough (when he wasn't away at school or at Castle Grace), but his father was in the Royal Flying Corps, so wouldn't have discouraged him. His nephew, Patrick's son Richard, was in the Queen's University Air Squadron and the RAF Reserve.

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    John Spooner

    • 29/Aug/2013 17:02:54

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] This site says it (G-ABWM) is a Desouter, not an Aeronca, but that it was owned by Richard Grubb, so I'd guess it's a strong possibility that it's him in the picture.

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    John Spooner

    • 29/Aug/2013 17:19:47

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] It would be a bit premature for them to be celebrating Patrick's engagement - that wasn't announced for another 10 years.

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    O Mac

    • 29/Aug/2013 18:37:25

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] The plane behind your man in the inset photo might be the Aeronca. The cockpit curves look similar and its got spars over the wing. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Aeronca_100_Sywell_2008_1_crop...

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 29/Aug/2013 19:47:49

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner] D'oh! Apologies John - read 1947 as 1937 :(

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    Ray Mallon1

    • 30/Aug/2013 06:24:55

    the family had been removed from the Society of Friends (better known as the Quakers) in 1844 (11 years before Samuel was born) for engaging in ‘amusements or entertainments of a hurtful or injurious tendency’, more specifically for attending ‘Balls at which music and dancing form a chief part’ and which were forbidden by the rules of the Society. PS SAMUEL is Richard grubbs father there is a monument to him on sugar loaf hill tipp

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    John Spooner

    • 30/Aug/2013 08:30:01

    The 2 male de C Grubbs pictured seem to have been horsemen. Not really surprising as both served in the Hussars. Major/Lt Colonel/Colonel R R Grubb is listed as an owner at several meetings between 1925 and 1936 (but especially 1934), and 2 results from point-to-point races stand out. - At the Vine meeting at Hannington, on April 13 1936, Lieutenant-Colonel R. R. Grubb's Dwan, ridden by Mr. P. de C. Grubb, came third in the Novices' race. - Two days later Lieutenant-Colonel R. R. Grubb's Shanona, ridden by Mr. P. Grubb, came second in the Adjacent Hunts Maiden Race at the Wylie Valley meeting at Thoulstone. In May 1934 Colonel R. R. Grubb played at no 1 in the 3rd Hussars polo team in a 5-all draw against Manchester at Ashley. "As the weather was bad it was decided not to play extra time". (all from the London Times)

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    blackpoolbeach

    • 30/Aug/2013 08:56:41

    No trace on the 1901 census of England and Wales,but here is the 1911 census of barracks in South Africa. Richard Raymond de Cruce Grubb, Lieutenant, 24, Single, 3rd K.O.Hussars, birthplace Clogheen Cahir.

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    oaktree_brian_1976

    • 30/Aug/2013 23:36:24

    I guess this was before that nameless German WW2 dictator style moustache went out of style for ever...

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    blackpoolbeach

    • 31/Aug/2013 20:45:40

    Some interesting results from www.ancestry.co.uk/ showing the dispora from one small town in Ireland. No need to be a subscriber at this level of search. There is a Clogheen in Cork and Tipperary. Search the 1901 England and Wales census without using a surname for people born in Clogheen, Ireland Thomas Blake born 1834, living in Kent. Mary Sherbrooke born 1850, living in London. Search the 1911 England and Wales census without using a surname for people born in Clogheen, Ireland Ellen Bowers born 1864, living in Titchfield, Hampshire Mary Ellen Bowers born 1884, living in Titchfield, Hampshire Ellen Cook born 1879, living in Bulford, Wiltshire Alice Cook born 1908, living in Bulford, Wiltshire Anastasia Cooper born 1856, living in Salford, Lancashire Thomas Cooper born 1875, living in Salford, Lancashire Richard Raymond De Grace Grubb born abt 1887, Military, England Brigid M Hyland born 1883 in Clogheen Tipperary, living in Thornley, County Durham Henry Jewell born 1887, living in London Thomas Kelly born 1855, living in Birkenhead, Cheshire Elmer John Kisbee born 1908, living in Teddington, Surrey Mabel Elizabeth Lacey born 1902, living in St Ives, Cornwall, Josephine Lonergan born 1895 Clogheen Tipp, living in Sunderland, Durham William Alfred George Henry Packham born 1905, living in Bulford, Wiltshire Martha Jane Park House born 1866, living in Ashwell, Hertfordshire William Roche born 1838, living in Whitchurch, Shropshire Ethel Whitbread born 1904, living in Norwich, Norfolk Daniel Cullinane born 1888, living in Gelligaer, Glamorgan, Wales John Greece born 1887, living in Rhondda, Glamorgan, Wales Albert Kahn born 1889, living in Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Patrick Mahony born 1888, living in Gelligaer, Glamorgan, Wales

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 31/Aug/2013 22:00:16

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackpoolbeach] Hmm - I bet there are several diasporated to Australia and beyond too. It's a long way to Tipperary ...

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 27/Nov/2015 00:20:44

    I have just added this photo to our 50,000+ Views Album [https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/sets/72157651136879037]