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When: 01 January 1921

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May I introduce you all to Charles (Charlie) Vane-Tempest-Stewart, 7th Marquess of Londonderry.

Always amazed by searching serendipity! Had never heard of the Vane-Tempests until yesterday's Carnlough photograph, and then fell across this gentleman last evening when looking for somebody else entirely!

Date: Circa 1921

NLI Ref.: BEA24

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Owner: National Library of Ireland on The Commons
Source: Flickr Commons
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    DannyM8

    • 09/Aug/2013 07:47:51

    Charles Stewart Henry Vane-Tempest-Stewart, 7th Marquess of Londonderry, KG, MVO, PC, PC (Ire) (13 May 1878 – 10 February 1949), styled Lord Stewart until 1884 and Viscount Castlereagh between 1884 and 1915, was an Anglo-Irish peer known for his political career in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland and, later, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. He is best remembered for his tenure as Secretary of State for Air in the 1930s and for his links with the Appeasement policy towards Nazi Germany. From en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Vane-Tempest-Stewart,_7th_M...

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    DannyM8

    • 09/Aug/2013 08:08:28

    His grand daughter Lady Annabel Goldsmith (formerly Birley, née Vane-Tempest-Stewart; born 11 June 1934) is an English socialite and the eponym for a celebrated London nightclub of the late 20th century, Annabel's. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Annabel_Goldsmith

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    DannyM8

    • 09/Aug/2013 08:13:10

    After the 1935 General Election Baldwin took the oppotunity to sack him. The sense of hurt Londonderry felt at this, and of accusations that he had misled Baldwin about the strength Nazi Germany's air force, led him to seek to clear his reputation as a 'warmonger' by engaging in amateur diplomacy. This involved visits to senior Nazis in Germany, and briefings with government officials in London. His high profile promotion of 'Anglo-German' friendship, in the end, marked him with a far greater slur than that which had led him to engage in appeasement in the first place. After playing a marginal role in the overthrow of Neville Chamberlain in 1940, he failed to win any favour from his cousin, Prime Minister Winston Churchill. Without office he produced his memoirs, Wings of Destiny (1943), a relatively short book that was considerably censored by his former colleagues. state.chemistrydaily.com/chemistry/Charles_Vane-Tempest-S...

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    DannyM8

    • 09/Aug/2013 08:16:59

    Lord Londonderry also had an illegitimate daughter with actress Fannie Ward, named Dorothé Mabel Lewis. She first married, in 1918, a nephew of mining magnate Barney Barnato, Capt. Jack Barnato, who died of pneumonia shortly after their wedding. Her second husband, whom she married in 1922, was Terence Plunket, 6th Baron Plunket, and with him she had three sons: Patrick Plunket, 7th Baron Plunket, Robin Plunket, 8th Baron Plunket, and the Hon Shaun Plunket. Lord and Lady Plunket were killed in an airplane crash in California in 1938. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Vane-Tempest-Stewart,_7th_M...

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    DannyM8

    • 09/Aug/2013 08:18:57

    Having suffered a stroke after a gliding accident a few years after the end of the war, Lord Londonderry died on 10 February 1949 at Mount Stewart, County Down, aged 70. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Vane-Tempest-Stewart,_7th_M...

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    ¬¬Lindisfarne

    • 09/Aug/2013 08:28:52

    So interesting ! Thanks !

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 09/Aug/2013 08:29:18

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Thanks a million, Danny! Is all of this from a book you have or online sources?

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    DannyM8

    • 09/Aug/2013 08:30:45

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] Online - I should, I know post the references. I do have books!!

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 09/Aug/2013 08:32:30

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] If you could just copy and paste the links, that'd be great! As a incentive, there will be a dog photo next week...

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    blackpoolbeach

    • 09/Aug/2013 09:09:29

    The "Londonderry Herr" airminded.org/2010/04/28/the-londonderry-herr/

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    DannyM8

    • 09/Aug/2013 13:05:46

    The 9th Marquess of Londonderry, who has died aged 74, was an unconventional aristocrat who suffered more than his fair share of misfortune and heartbreak The Londonderrys had been immensely rich, owning more than 50,000 acres, a colliery empire and three other houses in addition to Wynyard, Mount Stewart and Londonderry House. But by the time Alastair inherited the title, mismanagement, taxation and the nationalisation of the coal mines had taken their toll. Londonderry House was sold to Hilton Hotels and later demolished, while Mount Stewart, which had been bequeathed by the 7th Marquess to his daughter, Lady Mairi Bury, Alistair’s aunt, was subsequently handed over to the National Trust. The 9th Marquess launched his career somewhat unpromisingly with a letter to The New Statesman attacking the monarchy. He criticised members of the royal family for “flashing their toothpaste smiles, displaying their latest hairdos and exhibiting their deplorable taste in clothes. “I have met the Queen a number of times,” he went on, “and I find her voice a pain in the neck.” This immature tirade brought a stern reprimand from his grandmother, the Dowager Marchioness, who expressed herself horrified by her grandson’s “vulgar, silly, and childish” outburst. Days later Lord Londonderry issued a grovelling apology for his “bad manners”. From - www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/9345238/The-Marquess-...

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    DannyM8

    • 09/Aug/2013 13:11:52

    Other photos and pictures courtesy of the National Portrait Gallery (they do not seem to have a copy of this one) www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/person.php?LinkID=mp027...

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    DannyM8

    • 09/Aug/2013 13:15:05

    Ribbentrop, the German Ambassador to Britain, visited Londonderry's homes at Mount Stewart and Wynyard Hall in May-June 1936 and November 1936. www.stanford.edu/group/auden/cgi-bin/auden/individual.php...

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    DannyM8

    • 09/Aug/2013 13:15:54

    1937 ‎(Age 58)‎ Guest of Göring at a hunting party in Germany. www.stanford.edu/group/auden/cgi-bin/auden/individual.php...

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    DannyM8

    • 09/Aug/2013 13:24:25

    Several days later, on 4 February, Londonderry had a two-hour audience with Hitler, which was also attended by Hess and Ribbentrop. In response to Londonderry’s appreciation of being treated like an official representative, Hitler replied that he welcomed ‘unofficial’ visits. Like his lieutenants, the Führer was keen to press for an anti-communist alliance, and gave a long ‘tirade’ on the threat of Russia. He was notably less effusive when answering Londonderry’s questions about rearmament, Germany’s aims, and the League of Nations, preferring either to ignore them or to respond with veiled threats about the failure of Anglo-German understanding. www.cardiff.ac.uk/share/resources/CHP4%20Fleming.pdf

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    oaktree_brian_1976

    • 10/Aug/2013 02:33:22

    dapper-looking fellow, that one (see, my comments all are sort of the same on these last three photos)

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    oaktree_brian_1976

    • 10/Aug/2013 02:36:13

    Marquess sounds like the feminine form, isn't it a marquis for a man?

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 11/Aug/2013 12:01:31

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] No definitely not. I did some research on this a couple of months back. I agree it sounds as if it would be the feminine, but Marquess is definitely correct for men.

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    blackpoolbeach

    • 11/Aug/2013 23:12:38

    The wife of a marquess is a marchioness. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquess The husband of a marchioness is not a Martian ([http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] .....sorry about that one).

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    roger4336

    • 12/Aug/2013 23:46:59

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] "Without office he produced his memoirs, Wings of Destiny (1943), a relatively short book that was considerably censored by his former colleagues." Censored, or censured?

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    DannyM8

    • 13/Aug/2013 05:31:51

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Roger, given the positions he had held, together with the fact that some (most) of his former colleagues were indeed very powerful, perhaps "censored" is the correct word? Also,The official secrets act would have been a major consideration.

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    roger4336

    • 13/Aug/2013 12:29:43

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]]. My question, while expressed in terms of language, was a matter of fact, i.e., the correct word. Was his book severely criticized (censured) by his former colleagues, or were they able to revise and/or suppress some of his thoughts (censored)? No matter.