Mountjoy Brewery, Dublin. Looks like current Mountjoy Prison building.

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Where: 40 Russell St, Ballybough, Dublin 1, D01 WC63, Ireland

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When: 01 January 1890

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A Brewery at Mountjoy? Now that would be happiness! Of all the names for a prison, "Mountjoy", the Hill of Happiness? This particular one intrigues me as it has much of the appearance of the prison but would seem to be too close to the road...

With thanks to B-59 we have confirmation that Mountjoy Brewery was some distance from the prison on Russell Street - east along the canal and just over the bridge from Croke Park. Many of the brewery's buildings stood until the latter half of the 20th century, but the larger ones we see here were demolished and replaced with 1970s and 1980s commercial/office buildings...


Photographer: Thomas H. Mason

Collection: Mason Photographic Collection

Date: c.1890-1910

NLI Ref: M56/56

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    B-59

    • 20/Sep/2016 07:53:37

    OSI map: maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V2,716165,735790,12,9

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    B-59

    • 20/Sep/2016 07:58:14

    Founded on 13 January 1852, closed in August 1956 www.findlaters.com/chapter4.html

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    B-59

    • 20/Sep/2016 08:09:15

    The prison is about 800 m to the west.

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    swordscookie back and trying to catch up!

    • 20/Sep/2016 08:16:23

    The 'Joy' predates it by 2 years so! According to Wikipedia: Mountjoy was designed by the British military engineering officer, Captain Joshua Jebb, Royal Engineers and opened in 1850, based on the design of London's Pentonville Prison also designed by Jebb. Originally intended as the first stop for men sentenced to transportation, they would spend a period in separate confinement before being transferred to Spike Island and transported from there to Van Diemen's Land.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 20/Sep/2016 08:44:57

    Mr Mason also went around the back - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000543454/HierarchyTree ...and inside - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000543456/HierarchyTree

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    RETRO STU

    • 20/Sep/2016 09:52:19

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Thanks for the links, very interesting reading. Looks like only one building survives from the Mountjoy Brewery, would anyone know what this building was used for back then?

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    guliolopez

    • 20/Sep/2016 10:17:13

    Google's 3D view (as opposed to StreetView) gives an interesting perspective. Looks like what is now the Europcar car rental office survived (as did the "shed" behind it). The main brewery buildings were clearly demolished however. I can't find confirmation on when. Although the main building clearly was still in operation - as T&P Dobson's Bottlers - until the early 1970s. As per this Dublin Libraries pic.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 20/Sep/2016 11:27:15

    Brilliant - Thanks [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]]. That seems to clear up the apparent confusion in the catalogue/Mason collection title. It seems clear that this brewery was actually quite some distance away from the prison. Just over the canal from Croke Park in fact. Generations likely walked past these buildings on the way to Croker. Does anyone know when it was demolished? Probably to make way for the "Westward House" we see in the Google 3D view and Streetview. While some of the "outbuildings" seem to have survived, this looks like a candidate for our "no longer standing" album...

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    silverio10

    • 20/Sep/2016 21:56:30

    Buena serie de fotos antiguas

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    Niall McAuley

    • 21/Sep/2016 08:22:04

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] In your Dublin libraries shot, we can see the brand "JOY ALE" written on the wall. The Irish Newspaper Archive finds a load of hits for the brand name from 1933 to 1949. (8 CWT up to 8 tons?) Refreshing and invigorating, apparently.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 21/Sep/2016 12:17:43

    An ad on a tram (1948): twitter.com/thebeernut/status/599878514939138048

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    Niall McAuley

    • 21/Sep/2016 12:19:45

    Nourishing Dublin Stout label: www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/mountjoy-brewery-dublin-ir...

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    Niall McAuley

    • 21/Sep/2016 12:22:36

    Dublin Pale Ale: www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/t-vennett-s...

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    indian59

    • 26/Oct/2016 19:42:35

    Not sure of the date/year of this contemporary,aerial view[from where/an air balloon ?] sketch of the brewery... www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/29951744803/in/datepos...

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    Niall McAuley

    • 28/Oct/2016 17:58:02

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] I think that is an example of an artist practicing his 3D perspective drawing!

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    indian59

    • 05/Nov/2016 12:19:10

    Niall,That makes sense,but it was probably more imagination than geographical accuracy, methinks,that was employed.There is another similar sketch from the opposite[diagonally]perspective at a blog besides the Mason ones,[added in above posts]f I can find it.I also cogged a few adverts from a Belfast publication giving two or more of the Dublin breweries[Phoenix the other]Somewhere in the NLI archive also,there is a Mountjoy ales etc ad.in shot along the perimeter walls of the warehousing attached to the old Harcourt station.Perhaps the 'crew' here know the one I refer to,witha carter approaching the gate,where the night club now occupies[Reynolds place]?