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Where: Chesterfield Ave, Phoenix Park, Dublin, Ireland

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The once ubiquitous Irish Jaunting car, or as it was also called, the "side car". Up to the 1950s they were the taxi of choice in most places. Often with little comfort, as one hung-on precariously sideways to the direction of travel. It was a great way of seeing what was on your side of the car but not what was on the opposite side. This fine Lawrence shot shows the Phoenix Monument (which was moved some decades after this shot but is now back where it belongs)....

Photographer: Robert French

Collection: Lawrence Photograph Collection

Date:between c.1865-1914 (though likely before 1903 given lamps visible)

NLI Ref: L_CAB_07638

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    O Mac

    • 21/Sep/2016 08:35:53

    Streetview 25"OSI

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    Carol Maddock

    • 21/Sep/2016 08:37:27

    Jaunting/Side Car 953

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    sharon.corbet

    • 21/Sep/2016 08:38:29

    The history of the moving of the Phoenix Monument. (To allow for motor racing!) Streetview of monument. (Possibly facing in the wrong direction)

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    O Mac

    • 21/Sep/2016 08:39:47

    pneumatic tyres...post 1890's

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    sharon.corbet

    • 21/Sep/2016 08:44:59

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Car 953 Turns up in a few more "Irish Jaunting Car" photos: catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000336579 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000322955 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000323959 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000336580

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    Niall McAuley

    • 21/Sep/2016 08:54:20

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] 3959 and 6580 at least look to be the same day - nearby in the park, same lady seated at left.

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    Carol Maddock

    • 21/Sep/2016 09:02:34

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Robert French must have taken away her furled umbrella prop in 3959 and 6580.

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    O Mac

    • 21/Sep/2016 09:06:00

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] The shadow tells us they're facing north towards the Castleknock gate.

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    D.G-S

    • 21/Sep/2016 09:23:10

    Terrific picture and great info!

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 21/Sep/2016 09:31:00

    So is the photo before or after 1903, when the lamps, railings and stonework on two sides of the Phoenix Monument were flattened and then restored? See photo in [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]]'s history. It is a bit peculiar to have a 'not' year, 1903. From the hats, I reckon post 1903. Maybe?

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    sharon.corbet

    • 21/Sep/2016 09:34:04

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] She still has it in 6580!

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    La Belle Province

    • 21/Sep/2016 09:34:18

    Looks like a jolting as well as a jaunting way to get about.

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    DannyM8

    • 21/Sep/2016 09:39:58

    The Phoenix Monument was erected by the fourth Earl of Chesterfield in 1747. The column was carved in Portland stone. It is in the shape of a Corinthian column with a Phoenix bird rising from the ashes at its pinnacle. It is located in the centre of the Park and forms a focal point of a large roundabout on the beautiful tree-lined Chesterfield Avenue. www.phoenixpark.ie/visitorinformation/attractions/

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    Niall McAuley

    • 21/Sep/2016 09:53:09

    The lamps seem to change in some archive shots... Here they have flat panes and a cylindrical top: catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000557562 In todays shot (and this one catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000323959) they are rounder and have a Phoenix on top? A clear one of the rounder lights: catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000040832 A close up of one (it is not a Phoenix on top, just a fancy cone): catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000040949 No lights at all! Must be close to the 1903 motor racing vandalism. catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000298947

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    Carol Maddock

    • 21/Sep/2016 09:57:29

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] D'oh! Yes she does.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 21/Sep/2016 10:03:09

    I think she is Mary Poppins on a day out in Dublin. Spit spot !

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    Niall McAuley

    • 21/Sep/2016 10:09:48

    So I'm guessing the sequence is round, none (1903), flat, and todays shot is before 1903.

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    A. P. L.

    • 21/Sep/2016 10:10:27

    They do have this awful habit of placing monuments and roundabouts into the way of the motor racing circuits in the Phoenix Park! It's happened at Mountjoy corner now too!

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    Seanieseye

    • 21/Sep/2016 11:02:35

    Keep them coming , I love old Ireland and her history in photo ..

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 21/Sep/2016 11:07:49

    Quite good 1908 tongue-in-cheek newspaper article 'A National Vehicle - The Outside Car', including this -

    ...Car owners prefer the outside car to the hansom, because it is built to carry four besides the driver. But when four people charter an outside car, the couple on the right side are completely separated from their friends on the left. Like Ireland itself, the party is at once divided into two camps sitting back to back, with opposite points of view, and completely out of touch with each other ... ...
    trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/113766673

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 21/Sep/2016 11:39:08

    Crikey! It's amazing where these old photos take you - to a blog talking about the gas lamplighters in Phoenix Park, a James Joyce 'Finnegan's Wake' connection, and a wonderful piece of piano music dedicated to Joyce, see mossreid.blogspot.com.au/2015/02/streetlighters-phoenix-p... Arthur Lourié - 'A Phoenix Park Nocturne' - youtu.be/D6x3cLdNIHE

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    swordscookie back and trying to catch up!

    • 21/Sep/2016 13:28:00

    Its a shame that they discontinued the motor racing in the Park, it really added a dose of excitement to the place. Interesting that the lighting is still provided by gas, I saw them being repaired only last week while passing through!

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    swordscookie back and trying to catch up!

    • 21/Sep/2016 14:20:06

    Not quite car racing but exciting all the same!!! www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S6IKtEXoyE

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    Andy Gant

    • 21/Sep/2016 16:51:57

    Great image, seen in "B&W Images from around the World" www.flickr.com/groups/picsinbw/

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    philfluther

    • 21/Sep/2016 17:41:29

    Oaks, center grove. Went in with the column, perhaps. Dunlop, tires. Same, buried Deans Grange.

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    A. P. L.

    • 21/Sep/2016 20:35:06

    They did try to run the Motor Races again this year but lack of sponsorship and that new roundabout scuppered it, quite possibly for good this time.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 22/Sep/2016 16:23:46

    Thanks all. Have updated the map and tags, and in particular the date....

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    BlueisCoool

    • 07/Oct/2016 20:39:58

    A wonderful black and white image!