Meet Moate's Main Street - from the west!

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Where: Cooney's Flats, Main St, Cartronkeel, Moate, Co. Westmeath, Ireland

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Moate, Co. Westmeath has a long and noble main street and it is well captured in this fine Eason shot! We have some of the usual suspects standing about but for me the pose of the man about to climb onto the cart is BIZ! There are no shortage of chimney pots on view and I am sure turf/peat was the staple diet for the fireplaces thereabouts.

Given that the location of this image was pretty unequivocal, much of the discussion on its subject focused on the buildings and businesses which are visible. And, based on the adverts visible (including the Morganol Lubricants signage), it seems likely we are after c.1908. Also, given that we don't seem to see this memorial cross outside the courthouse, we are likely before c.1925.....


Photographer: Unknown

Collection: Eason Photographic Collection

Date: Catalogue range c.1900-1939. Likely c.1908-1925. Possibly late 1910s-early 1920s.

NLI Ref: EAS_4091

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    Niall McAuley

    • 28/Nov/2017 09:28:27

    In Rory's Streetview, I see a celtic cross at right, which I think would be visible if present. The NIAH dates it at 1925.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 28/Nov/2017 09:35:11

    I don't see a Blackburn Draper in Moate in the 1911 census, but Frank Blackburn is 24, living in Athlone with his parents and is a Commercial Clerk in the Woollen trade.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 28/Nov/2017 09:45:03

    Not finding much info online about MORGANOL MOTOR OIL SOLD HERE

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    Niall McAuley

    • 28/Nov/2017 09:46:37

    I see Carburine Motor Spirit references from the 1910s/20s.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 28/Nov/2017 09:46:50

    Something beginning with 'D' ... ...

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 28/Nov/2017 09:50:04

    That ruin at the end of the street - is that where the Post Office is now? Thinking 'pre' date. Ed. The old Post Office and Courthouse is to the right - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000559692

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    Niall McAuley

    • 28/Nov/2017 09:51:40

    The NIAH seems to have dropped the ball here, claiming this building is from 1885 and incorporates an 1830 building. Likewise the NIAH thinks that the old post office dates from 1885. Both are completely demolished in the post 1900 shot.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 28/Nov/2017 10:29:34

    Here is H John Blackburn, Draper, in Moate in 1901. Next door is Coulomb Kelly beyond that, wee see Thomas Kelly in the census, Dolan Bros in the photo.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 28/Nov/2017 10:37:29

    I suspect that parts of the 1911 census for Moate are not transcribed...

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    Niall McAuley

    • 28/Nov/2017 10:42:13

    This 1931 trade directory page says Blackburn, Dolan Bros, were here in 1931, but C. Kelly was gone. Harford's hotel is listed in 1931. There are Harford's in Moate in 1901, but they are not Hoteliers.

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    John Spooner

    • 28/Nov/2017 11:12:10

    Morganol Lubricants were advertised in Irish newspapers from June 1907 until 1924 (and probably later). It was the brand of William Preston & Co Ltd, of East Wall, Dublin.

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    Bernard Healy

    • 28/Nov/2017 12:56:00

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/] Kelly’s Directory of 1905 includes Harford’s Hotel, with Mary Harford as proprietor.

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    Bernard Healy

    • 28/Nov/2017 14:06:28

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/] And Slater’s Directory of 1894 has Hurford’s Hotel (sic), with Mary Harford as proprietor.

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    Foxglove

    • 28/Nov/2017 14:25:37

    what are the large tripod structures for? derricks, the hidden oil of West Meath?

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    Bernard Healy

    • 28/Nov/2017 14:31:11

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/] My guess is that they are for weighing scales. I think we have seen similar in various ‘market day’ pictures.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 28/Nov/2017 15:19:08

    Using Mary, I find the Hotel-keeping Harfords in 1901.

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    Bernard Healy

    • 28/Nov/2017 15:34:04

    Not sure if this helps in dating, but Westmeath Examiner 05 Dec 1908 has an advert from the Postmaster General looking for premises for a new post office.

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    Bernard Healy

    • 28/Nov/2017 15:34:46

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/] In Moate, I mean.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 28/Nov/2017 19:09:02

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy] I think that and [https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner]'s Morganol ads mean we are after 1908 sometime, and the cross says before 1925.

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 28/Nov/2017 20:39:43

    There is a Lawrence photo in the archive - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000319213 - which shows the far Post Office as a blackened shell before demolition. I wonder if there was a fire c. 1908, they found temporary premises next to the Court House - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000559692 - until the Post Office was rebuilt in a slightly strange neo-classical style seen in streetview. Can anyone with access to the local newspapers confirm a fire, and its date?

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    BeachcomberAustralia

    • 28/Nov/2017 20:41:48

    A tripod lasted into the 1990s - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000355397

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    Bernard Healy

    • 28/Nov/2017 21:48:16

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/] I tried that. I searched the local newspapers for mention of fire/demolition in Moate but failed to turn up anything.

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    [email protected]

    • 29/Nov/2017 10:24:35

    Excelente!!

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    philfluther

    • 29/Nov/2017 16:49:08

    Mind the step!

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    abandoned railways

    • 29/Nov/2017 23:00:09

    Is the wheel spaped item a water pump ? It is by the open drain that runs the middle of the square.

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 30/Nov/2017 23:43:32

    Thanks all - especially [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley], [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia], [https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner], and [https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy] for the efforts in refining the date. And [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] for helping refine the map placement. With apologies for the belated update, I've since tweaked the tags, date and description - to attempt to do some justice to your efforts :)