Mr. J. Redmond. M.P., Mrs. Redmond and girl

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Where: Maryland House, The Mall, Waterford, Ireland

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This photo is one of my favourites for quite a while, I have seen quite a few photographs of the great man, but none better than this, in my opinion.

We have Mr and Mrs Redmond and the consensus seems to be that the girl (or more appropriately young lady) is Johanna Redmond their daughter.

I am going with our suggested catalogue date of 26th January 1914 and there is good evidence that he was in Waterford at that time.

John Edward Redmond (1 September 1856 – 6 March 1918) was an Irish nationalist politician, barrister, MP in the House of Commons of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland and leader of the Irish Parliamentary Party from 1900 to 1918. He was a moderate, constitutional and conciliatory politician who attained the twin dominant objectives of his political life, party unity and finally in September 1914 achieving the promise of Irish Home Rule under an Act which granted an interim form of self-government to Ireland. However, implementation of the Act was suspended by the intervention of World War I, and ultimately made untenable after the Conscription Crisis of 1918.

Photographer: A. H. Poole

Collection: Poole Photographic Studio, Waterford

Date: 26th January 1914

NLI Ref: P_WP_2524

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    swordscookie back and trying to catch up!

    • 21/May/2015 08:57:38

    This is a beautiful studio portrait of a truly great Irishman who has been almost forgotten in light of the Rising and the war that followed it. He had achieved his objective of Home Rule only to be thwarted by the onset of the Great War and the fudge by the Government of the time! " John Edward Redmond (1 September 1856 – 6 March 1918) was an Irish nationalist politician, barrister, MP in the House of Commons of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland and leader of the Irish Parliamentary Party from 1900 to 1918. He was a moderate, constitutional and conciliatory politician who attained the twin dominant objectives of his political life, party unity and finally in September 1914 achieving the promise of Irish Home Rule under an Act which granted an interim form of self-government to Ireland. However, implementation of the Act was suspended by the intervention of World War I, and ultimately made untenable after the Conscription Crisis of 1918. He was the elder brother of Willie Redmond and father of William Archer Redmond, both of whom were to serve as MPs in his party"

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    swordscookie back and trying to catch up!

    • 21/May/2015 09:02:59

    Redmond married twice, his first wife was a Dalton from Australia and she died after having borne three children. He married Ada Beesley and I suspect that this is Ada as there is little resemblance that I can detect between the young lady sitting at his knee and the lady with her hand on his shoulder!

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    Vab2009

    • 21/May/2015 09:44:59

    It is a superb portrait! Looking large I feel I can touch his shoes as the detail and 3d quality is excellent.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 21/May/2015 10:31:23

    The date must be before his death for starters!

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    Niall McAuley

    • 21/May/2015 10:39:48

    His first wife Johanna died in 1889, he married Ada in 1899.

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    O Mac

    • 21/May/2015 10:43:54

    Ring evident ..... If its a wedding ring the photograph was taken post 8th Jan 1913 the date his daughter Johanna married Maxwell Sulllivan Green. Johanna died Feb 1917. So maybe 1913-1917? www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/17305600194/in/datepos... NLI have a Letter from John Redmond to the Sacristan requesting a copy of the Baptismal certificate of Johanna Redmond, 1912 Dec. 31. catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000543588

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    Niall McAuley

    • 21/May/2015 10:46:15

    His younger daughter was named Johanna, also, and the elder, Esther Mary. Johanna married Max Green of the Irish prisons board in 1913, and Esther Mary married Dr. William Power of New York in 1908.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 21/May/2015 10:58:26

    Census unlikely to be much good, as an MP, I'd say they were in London. This record of Essie Mary's wedding gives her date of death as 1917, when she would have been just 33.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 21/May/2015 11:01:01

    Assuming it's Johanna, then there's a sudden death klaxon needed for Max Green, who was shot dead on St. Stephen's Green while attempting to stop an armed robbery.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 21/May/2015 11:01:55

    Johanna was also a writer.

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    sharon.corbet

    • 21/May/2015 11:02:37

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] The NLI page for the photo claims about January 26th 1916. Also Johanna died in 1922, not 1917?

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    Niall McAuley

    • 21/May/2015 11:06:03

    Nice ref to Johanna's wedding at The Tablet: Fashion fans can read: The bride wore a gown of white duchesse satin, slashed up the left side, showing silver embroidery, and caught at the knee with a butterfly of diamante trimming. The silver embroidery was brought over the right shoulder and caught at the waist with another diamante butterfly. She wore a Court train of the satin lined with silver tissue and edged with lace ruching. The costume was completed by a white tulle veil and orange blossoms. She carried a Sheaf of lilies and wore a handsome diamond and pearl pendant.

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    O Mac

    • 21/May/2015 11:09:06

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] There's an Esther Redmond born England aged 16 in 1901 Census and a Johanna Redmond born England aged 13 in 1901 Census both are at Mount Anvil Boarding school. They have to be the John Redmonds daughters. www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?searchM... www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?census_... If Johanna then she would have been 26 in 1914.

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    Niall McAuley

    • 21/May/2015 11:12:51

    And here is Esther's 1908 wedding at the same source.

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    O Mac

    • 21/May/2015 11:19:20

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] NLI page for the photo claims 1914 nor 1916... catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000592973

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    DannyM8

    • 21/May/2015 12:12:15

    Per the IT on 26th Jan 1914, Mr Redmond was in Waterford the previous day, which ties in well with the catalogue date. [https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/17931032931/in/dateposted-public/]

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    Niall McAuley

    • 21/May/2015 12:28:48

    "The threats of civil war in Ulster were absurd" [Sigh]

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 21/May/2015 15:33:56

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] Agreed Niall, if only!

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    John Spooner

    • 22/May/2015 12:52:25

    [https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] Correct about the 1911 census - they're in London, Kensington to be precise, 18 Wynnstay Gardens to be even more precise. John Edward Redmond, aged 54, MP and Barrister at Law, born Dublin. Ada Redmond, aged 42, born Leamington, Warwickshire. Johanna Redmond, aged 23, single, born London (Clapham) Ann Duggan, aged 32, General Domestic Servant, born Rosslare.