Try to find the spot where the photographer was standing.
It's probably a cruiser; it looks a bit small for a dreadnought anyway, and the all big gun nature of the armament would rule out a pre-dreadnought battleship.
Well, sadly it's not HMS King Edward VII, whose sailors we encountered before here. But similar - spot the differences ...
Actually, maybe it is a pre-dreadnought. It looks quite like HMS Goliath.
Or HMS Formidable.
Edit: Or indeed quite a large number of late pre-dreadnought classes.
Looks like it was moored somewhere around here
Here's a record of HMS Ocean (a Canopus-Class battleship) in Castletownbere in 1905 www.plymouth.gov.uk/edwardianphotos/notice824.html
and another of HMS Montagu (Duncan-class) also in 1905 www.plymouth.gov.uk/edwardianphotos/notice827.html
That same source has a number of photos of Castletownbere from 1905 entitled "shore leave" www.google.com/search?q=plymouth+edwardian+photos+castlet...
Here's HMS Ocean for comparison upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/HMS_Ocean_%28...
Stunning capture.. this is wonderful image,Nicely done,good work my friend ...
...keep up your really good work ;-)
A small point but as the title is back to front, is it flipped?
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] The title is written on the reverse of the negative so it will be back to front when viewed from the emulsion side.
robinparks info would always be written on the non emulsion side of the plate and when printed will read correctly as the emulsion would be in contact with the photo paper or if printed in an enlarger the same would occur which strongly suggests that this is image was scanned with the emulsion facing upward creating a mirror image and needs to be flipped 180* to correct it
The negative was reversed when the photo was printed. The writing clearly says Battleship!
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] I've seen many old scanned photos that show negative's handwritten info reversed but if you flip them 180 degrees then the readings in the picture itself become reversed.
As per [http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]], it certainly looks a lot like a Canopus-class vessel. I can't find anything in this photo (or others in the series) to distinguish the fore-deck, wheel house, main gun or other elements from the picture ccferrie posted of the HMS Ocean.
I can however find differences from images of other ships in the Canopus-class and Swiftsure-class and contemporaneous classes. For example, on the Canopus herself, the arrangement of windows on the wheel house is a little different from what we see in the photo here. In others the gun casement looks a little "squarer". Etc. But nothing has stood-out in comparing this pic to other confirmed pics of the HMS Ocean.
I am however very very far from being expert enough to even imply that this is definitely the HMS Ocean. No doubt someone more nautically read will point out the quite obvious differences with the port and starboard phalanges. But it does seem plausible to me...
If I can put in my two cents' worth (as Ken Brockman would say)... Despite all the reasoning around emulsion and negatives, etc., what we're dealing with here is a Lawrence Studio convention which is evident throughout the collection, and apparent on many of the Lawrence images on here.
On all images, the "posh" writing on the glass plate negative prints as we humans read it and the hasty "scrawly" writing is always reversed. If you have a look at this recent photo, you'll see what I mean. Have a check back through Lawrence Collection uploads here and you'll see further examples... This photo is just missing its "posh" title that would have made things clearer - possibly Robert French or William Lawrence weren't too happy with it. I'd agree with them. The name of the ship on the caps should be clear as a bell!
P.S. I know that wasn't the most scientific of explanations, but on this companion Castletownbere image (at super duper high res), you can just make out that the sergeant's cap reads HMS something blurry or other - hence the photo is definitely the right way around...
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] That companion shot specifies that the big guns are BL 12 inchers, which wikipedia says were fitted to Majestic and Canopus class battleships.
So the Ocean in 1905 looks good!
If those are 12" the sailors are particularly fat-headed.
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] The sailors heads are small, the guns are far away.
Look like the old days again . Love it
If those are larger-than-twelve inch guns, they are either on the Trafalgar-, Royal Soverign-class or it's the HMS Sans Pareil. 13 or 16 inch guns. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pre-dreadnought_battleships...
If they're smaller than 12, it's a Centurion class, or the brand new King Edward VII-class, built like 1905'ish...
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] I'd have thought 6" or 8" myself but there's no battleships of that era with anything that small. That's why I thought it was a cruiser initially. It's not either a Swiftsure or a Centurion though, so they must be 12".
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] I know nothing about gun sizes but my money is on HMS Ocean because of the photographic evidence from the Plymouth archive and the similarity to the photo of the Ocean on Wikipedia
You can see why the command housing is called the "bridge"...
It's got to be the Ocean. Look at the photo on wikipedia, upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/HMS_Ocean_%28..., the bridge has two parts, upper and lower, held together by bars at a 45 degree angle : \ / -----\ /. Carol, it's the HMS Ocean!!!
Agree with NLI: Photo is right way around.
Photo was taken around midday, looking North. 'Hungry Hill' can be seen on upper right corner. Eastern half of Bere Island would be directly S of camera position.
Disagree with NLI: Quote: ". . . possibly Robert French or William Lawrence weren't too happy with it. I'd agree with them. The name of the ship on the caps should be clear as a bell!" End quote.
A bit harsh. Remember late 19th century/early 20th century camera shutter speeds & light sensitivity of emulsions weren't what they are today, therefore impossible for photographers to 'freeze' the 'action'. Both the ship (albeit at anchor) and the sailors are moving, hence the motion blur.
A fabulous photo given the technical restraints – in my view! :)
Heres another shot taken same time and same place. The identifying caption is almost rubbed away but you can just about make out HMS Ocean on the bottom of the pic.