Try to find the spot where the photographer was standing.
Once upon a time there was a bear...
Doesn't seem to have ended well for him.
He seems to be a Royal Scot
Without the busby - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/P_WP_0691/Image?lookfor=http://ww...
looking at the original photo size he appears to be attempting to grow a mousetache (not very successfully)
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/mogey] But I thought it was Teh Rulez!
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/mogey] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] The moustache was "a mark of the British soldier, whether it was the newly joined ploughboy's youthful wisp of straw-coloured hair or the cognita canities of the veteran with a long record of service under tropic suns" according to the London Times when the regulation to make top-lip shaving optional in 1916 (Oct 7). I think Lieutenant Story falls under the former category.
There's no Storeys in Kilkenny by 1901.
Is he definitely Storey?
Stoney, Thomas Ramsay, 35, 10th April 1918, 3rd Bn. attd. 6th Bn. King's Own Scottish Borderers, Second Lieutenant, Adjt., Born at Dungarvan, Co. Waterford. Son of Maj. George Ormonde Stoney, (K.O.S.B.) and Meylia Stoney; husband of Dorothy Agnes Stoney, of Stokelake House, Chudleigh, Devon. LA CLYTTE MILITARY CEMETERY, IV. A. 19
35 would be too young but he could be the dad (also KSOB).
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] He's definitely Storey in our catalogue However, we've unearthed spelling errors in, or transcription errors from, the Poole Studios day books before...
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] The death notice is correctly spelled, btw
A Lieutenant George Ormond (without the 'e') Stoney was appointed instructor of Musketry (25th foot) on 26th February 1870(London Gazette). Doesn't match the uniform, place or the age of the sitter.
Irrelevant aside - I also came across a naval Lieuteneant Storey, who was court-martialled in 1880 for being responsible for a collision at sea which resulted in the loss of the British barque Nereid. "Lieut. Storey had lost his power of self-control, and gave orders which sent the Eclipse in different directions .... Lieut. Storey was severely reprimanded, and ordered to forfeit all seniority as lieutenant, and be dismissed from his ship."
London Gazette 27th Nov 1883 - Kings's Own Borderers, Captain George Ormond Stoney, to be Major.
I wonder how much those hats weighed.
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_belle_province] one and a half pounds, if I recall correctly (from reading it somewhere, not wearing one).
His uniform is that of the Royal irish Fusiliers I believe. Only two regiments I know of wore two collar badges, the other one being the Seaforth Highlanders and he's definitely not one of those.
He might be Ralph Durrant Sadleir Stoney or Leigh Sadleir Stoney mentioned here
I would lean towards this being Leigh Sadleir Stoney. It seems he had more of a connection to Ireland. He was made 2nd lieutenant in March 1898 and was later on High Sherriff of Queens County in 1911.
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Should he not have a grenade on his collar instead of an eagle if he's RIF?
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/] It's a grenade with an eagle on it as far as I can see, you can make it out if you zoom in on the fullsize photo.
So it is. I didn't notice because the eagle is so much shinier than the grenade.
It must have gotten a bit tiring to wear a busby for any prolonged length of time!
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner] no beards though, except for officers in the Senior Service.
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/nicksbuscoach] I think the pioneers were allowed full beards as well.
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] A relative?
The Pall Mall Gazette (London, England), Tuesday, June 7, 1892
AN IRISH J.P. SENTENCED FOR ASSAULTING A LADY
At the Court -house at Menagh yesterday there was disclosed a remarkable case in the house of Captain Bunbury, of Woodville, county Tipperary. Mr Sadleir Storey, a justice of the peace and Barrister at law, being charged with assault on Mrs. Bunbury. It was stated that while Mrs. Bunbury went out to visit a lady friend in the neighbourhood, who was about to leave for the Continent, Captain Bunbury, who was drinking, invited Mr Sadleir Storey, who resided in the vicinity, to join him, and that when she returned the two gentlemen were engaged carousing in a room to which she was refused admittance. The door was locked, and with a small hachet she attempted to break it open, whereupon Mr Sadleir Storey, rushing out, felled her with a blow, and seizing the hatchet beat her with it. He aimed a blow with the edge of the hatchet at her. The coachman came up, but Mr Sadleir Storey, hatchet in hand, chased both of them and afterwards, when Mrs. Bunbury, fearing for the safety of her children, ran to the nursery, she found the infuriated gentleman pursuing the nurse round a table, and proclaiming his intention to murder her if only he could lay his hands on her. Mrs. Bunbury and the servants were examined for the prosecution. Mr. Sadleir Storey defended himself, and contended that the assault was a slight one and much exaggerated. The magistrates sentenced him to three months' imprisonment with hard labour, and to give security for good behaviour. He gave notice of appeal.
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner/] Very likely Leigh Sadleir Stoney himself, he was a J.P. for Queens County also and later on his wife divorced him on the grounds of cruelty I believe. Haven't found the details but the divorce is mentioned here
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner] A) Mad story, thank you John!
B) They wrote of Sadleir StoRey (not Stoney) throughout that article?
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland]' I think it has to be a typo and perhaps a common one at the time maybe.
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] B) Yes with an R - my befuddled mind had got into the habit of thinking Storey and Stoney were interchangeable. The same story appeared in 6 other newspapers, all with 'R'. So possibly not related at all.
I think its definitely a mispelling of his name in both the case of the photo and the account from the Pall Mall Gazette. In 1891 there was a Sadleir Stoney J.P. residing at Ballycapple, Cloughjordan, Tipperary, the same County as Captain Bunbury and close to his home at Woodville.
London Times June 25th 1919 in the account of the divorce proceedings.
The parties were married on December 20, 1899. in the parish church of Seskinore, county Tyrone, according to the rites of the CHurch of Ireland, and they cohabited at Mullingar, in Dublin, and in other places in Ireland. There was the issue of the marriage one daughter, born on October 10, 1900. The petitioner alleged that her husband frequently, when under the influence of drink, swore at her and beat her, and that he had committed adultery with various women whose names were unknown. In June, 1918, the petitioner obtained a decree of divorce a mensa et thoro from the Matrimonial Court in Ireland on the ground of her husband's adultery and cruelty.
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnspooner/] Interesting, perhaps the gentleman in the Bunbury incident was his brother or cousin Ralph. I still am inclined to think the photo is that of Leigh Sadleir Stoney.
Edited: It seems there were other members of the Sadlier Stoneys in Tipperary including a Sadleir Stoney, Esquire, M.A., Barrister at Law & J.P. with the family seat at Ballycapple, Tipperary. I think it was likely this Sadleir Stoney, an uncle of leigh Sadleir Stoney, that was involved in the Bunbury incident, he would have been about 70 at the time.
To get back to the uniform, the officer in the photo is a second lieutenant, the next rank up, lieutenant, would have had a single star on each shoulder in addition to the braided shoulder boards. The cuff braiding also indicates a lieutenant, this form of rank insignia was only in use from 1881 to 1902. Leigh Sadleir Stoney was made second lieutenant in March 1898.
So his coat would be red like that certain Prince that got married to Kate Middleton?
Yes, the prince wore a very similar Irish Guards uniform.
This is a nice example of an R.I.F. Officers uniform
Spot on ofarrl, I concur with all that you have said. A nice photo of a R.I.F. subaltern in full dress circa 1881-1902. They had been Princess Victoria's own regiment and so wore as one part of their two-piece collar badge a representation of her coronet. The other part was the fusiliers grenade with an Imperial French eagle mounted upon the ball, in commemoration of Sgt Masterson's (of the 87th Foot) capture of an eagle at the Battle of Barrossa.
It is said that he was fighting drunk (perhaps apocryphal) and at the moment of capture shouted: "Bajasus bhoys, oi have the cuckoo". Whether true, or not, it makes a great story and paints an evocative picture! Sgt Masterson was rewarded with an ensigncy in the Royal Yorkshire Light Infantry Volunteers. Later the eagle was stolen and never recovered. The original staff is on display in the Royal Irish Fusiliers Museum in Armagh.
The head dress in the photo is a bearskin, as worn by officers and warrant officers, rather than a busby.
Great photo! I added some color to this portrait.
Great picture. Please look my work some different and more historic.
The green scarf not appear in any document / archive footage. The gray hue, can be confused with green but it is indeed red. The uniform of a more intense red. That of a young lieutenant is almost new. It is not faded by time, fighting or campaigns.
The cuff under the braid should be dark blue, like the collar, but the rest of the colouration is accurate.
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