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When: 11 December 1903

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Advertising leaflet for the Fox & Co. Shooting Range at 74 Thomas Street in Dublin.

Date: Friday, 11 December [Would like to sort out a definite year for this one!]

Printed by: City Printing Works, 13 Stafford Street, Dublin

Size: 19 x 13 cm

NLI Ref.: EPH B297

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Owner: National Library of Ireland on The Commons
Source: Flickr Commons
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    zippo22

    • 11/Dec/2013 10:42:52

    "Expert Authorities Claim that it takes one ton of lead to kill a man in actual warfare. Why not perfect yourself to do the same with one oz.?" Why indeed ?

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 11/Dec/2013 10:44:05

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] A fairly extravagant claim...

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    guliolopez

    • 11/Dec/2013 16:25:57

    Before anything else: "Shooting range" @ 74 Thomas street: [GMaps] [OSI] Print works @ 13 Stafford Street [GMaps] [OSI]

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 11/Dec/2013 16:51:20

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] Thank you for those beautifully presented geo links. Now that's sorted, when was this? I checked in the 1903 and 1908 Thoms Dublin Directories (11th December fell on a Friday) but at no. 74 Thomas Street is John Byrne, grocer, tea, wine, and spirit merchant. Tried a few random years - 1912: ITGWU and 1915: Vacant...

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    guliolopez

    • 11/Dec/2013 17:41:53

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] Indeed. I find this one a bit intriguing. I had found the same census returns as yourself, and it's clear that 74 Thomas Street was a public house (probably with grocery component) at the 1901 and 1911 census. There's nothing to indicate that it was in use for an extended period as a shooting range. (Although those properties all have/had reasonably long yards and rooms, so one of the back rooms might have been used as a range for a period.) Confirming a date would be made easier if we could link "The Fox and Co." to the property. However, I can't seem to find the company at all - not to mention any connection to Thomas Street. The only Fox connection (of any sort) to 74 Thomas Street would seem to be James Fox - a 16 year-old Na Fianna volunteer who died during the Rising at Stephen's Green. In some sources his address is given as 74 Thomas Street. Perhaps a family connection. Perhaps a coincidence. I went and (re)watched one of Eamonn mac Thomais' marvelous pieces on the history of the Liberties to see if he might mention something - but no such luck. (Although - to be honest - I was glad of the excuse to revisit these videos. I will find an excuse again soon...)

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    Niall McAuley

    • 12/Dec/2013 08:49:33

    What does the stamp indicate? National x 6 Jun 1933?

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 12/Dec/2013 09:11:20

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] That's our old big National Library of Ireland stamp! :(

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 12/Dec/2013 09:14:58

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]] P.S. Here's your Christmas Card from Library Towers!

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    Niall McAuley

    • 12/Dec/2013 09:28:11

    So the leaflet was considered National Library material in 1933 - does that mean it was already old, or could it have been current?

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    National Library of Ireland on The Commons

    • 12/Dec/2013 09:37:18

    [http://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] Either or both in fact - material often stamped soon after coming into Library Towers or years later if part of a "job lot" that wasn't sorted at individual item level... I will check Thoms this p.m. for City Printing Works being at 13 Stafford Street. I think from the type and language, etc. that this would have been earlier than the 1930s...

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    O Mac

    • 12/Dec/2013 18:12:07

    11th December was a Friday in 1903 1908 1914 1925 1931... With the war reference, I'd make a guess and say it's from 1914. The "ton of lead" maxim is attributed to the Duke of Wellington.

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    Bernard Healy

    • 16/Dec/2013 14:49:04

    I could be wrong, but the fact that the range is ostensibly training people to shoot so that they can kill a man with 1 oz of lead strikes me as the kind of sentiment that fits better with pre-WWI and pre-Civil War attitudes to warfare. I'd be inclined to name 1914 as the latest year when that sentiment would be regarded as appropriate for an advertising poster.